Just found out that Chinese forces can enter Burma and Kwangtung at any time even if UK is not at war with Japan. This prompted the question: Could Japan target only the Chinese forces in Burma and ingnore any UK troops? Similar to how naval battles can be. My answer was no but an official “no” or “yes” would be great. Thanks a bunch. The fate of the world hangs in the balance!!! :-D
Just found out that Chinese forces can enter Burma and Kwangtung at any time even if UK is not at war with Japan. This prompted the question: Could Japan target only the Chinese forces in Burma and ingnore any UK troops? Similar to how naval battles can be. My answer was no but an official “no” or “yes” would be great. Thanks a bunch. The fate of the world hangs in the balance!!! :-D
NO.
On land, you must be at war with all powers that have units there. For example, Russia can’t invade Romania when there is an Italian tank there (along with a German stack, say) without being at war with Italy. Also, you are invading a UK territory, so Japan would always have to declare war on the UK to get at Kwangtung/Burma.
It is ONLY at sea that you can ignore units of powers with which you are at war and attack others. If you need, I can point you to it in the rulebook, otherwise I won’t bother.
Just found out that Chinese forces can enter Burma and Kwangtung at any time even if UK is not at war with Japan. This prompted the question: Could Japan target only the Chinese forces in Burma and ingnore any UK troops? Similar to how naval battles can be. My answer was no but an official “no” or “yes” would be great. Thanks a bunch. The fate of the world hangs in the balance!!! :-D
NO.
On land, you must be at war with all powers that have units there. For example, Russia can’t invade Romania when there is an Italian tank there (along with a German stack, say) without being at war with Italy. Also, you are invading a UK territory, so Japan would always have to declare war on the UK to get at Kwangtung/Burma.
It is ONLY at sea that you can ignore units of powers with which you are at war and attack others. If you need, I can point you to it in the rulebook, otherwise I won’t bother.
Great news and thanks for the quick response Gamerman! That answer will suffice. Game on!
Where’s the bit of rules in second edition where subs can block an amphibious assault? I’ve tried searching these forums and other places but it’s hard to get quotes for specifically Global rules.
Afternoon TheMaster.
If you mean a Sub preventing an amphibious assault by an unescorted Transport, then it is on page 15 of Pacific, under Transports.
That is the only occasion they can do that.
Is that what you meant?
Yes, that’s it exactly. We scoured Europe 2nd Ed. but not Pacific, lol…
Does a german bomber in original chinesse territory prevent China from taking it back.
Does a german bomber in original chinesse territory prevent China from taking it back.
China can’t declare war on a European Axis power unless
one of those powers first either declares war on China or moves units into a territory into which Chinese units are allowed to
move.
Page 38 Pacific 1940 2nd Edition Rule Book.
SITUATION:
-A Japanese navy sits off of Hawaii. (1 battleship, 1 loaded transport, 1 dst, 2 acc, 4 fgt)
-Japan sends the fighters and the transport to attack forces in Western United States. Leaving it’s carriers in the Hawaiiaan sea zone.
-Japan also uses transports off Japan, to amphibiously assault Hawaii.
-Hawaii is defended by two fighters.
The question is this…
1. Can Japan attack Western USA with fighters, knowing that should the americans scramble at hawaii the japanese carriers ‘may’ be involved in combat, and unable to provide a landing zone?
The issue is that by leaving the carriers in the hawaiin sea zone, it significantly discourages the Americans from scrambling (because they are unlikely to win). In a sense, the Japanese have committed their carriers to an amphibious operation, and are benefitting from two committments. Of course… if there is no scramble, there is no problem.
My understanding is that this move is entirely valid. Based on the rule that as long as there is a “possibility” of landing, the Japanese aircraft can attack WUSA.
And of course… if I’m the Americans, I’m likely to scramble 1 fighter, to prevent a bombard, and ensure the death of all 4 fighters sent to WUS.
Right. Because the scramble is not a sure thing when doing the combat move, the combat move of fighters to WUS is valid.
The reason is that if the defender does not scramble at Hawaii, then the carriers are free to go to zone 10 to pick them up.
Like you said, you just have to demonstrate that it’s possible to pick up surviving aircraft.
Sub Clarification please.
A sub can retreat from a battle, which takes place at the end of a combat round? Regardless of a destroyer present.
A sub can submerge in a battle, which takes place at the beginning of a round of combat? Cannot if a destroyer is present.
Is this correct?
Also, can air force ever retreat separately from a battle? Thought i read that somewhere. And i know amphibious assault troops cannot retreat. what about accompanying forces that didnt arrive by boat? thanks!!
Sub Clarification please.
A sub can retreat from a battle, which takes place at the end of a combat round? Regardless of a destroyer present.
A sub can retreat from a battle at the end of a combat round just like any other unit, yes.
Destroyers cancel the surprise strike, submersible, and cannot be hit by air units abilities of the submarine. Retreating is not a special ability - submarines can always retreat the same as any other ship.
A sub can submerge in a battle, which takes place at the beginning of a round of combat? Cannot if a destroyer is present.
Is this correct?
Subs can only submerge when there is no active enemy destroyer present, right. (For example, if a German sub is in Z112 and a USA destroyer is in Z112, on the British turn, to prevent the German sub in Z112 from submerging requires a British destroyer. On the UK turn, the American destroyer does not cancel the German submarine’s special abilities, even though they are in the same zone. This scenario is quite possible, as the USA may have chosen to ignore the German submarine or may have noncommed the destroyer to Z112)
Subs submerge whenever they would normally be making a surprise strike.
Also, can air force ever retreat separately from a battle? Thought i read that somewhere. And i know amphibious assault troops cannot retreat. what about accompanying forces that didnt arrive by boat? thanks!!
Yes. What you read, was the amphibious assault rules.
The ONLY scenario there is EVER separate retreating is in an amphibious assault scenario.
You potentially have 2 groups of attacking units in an amphibious assault.
Group 1) can never retreat
Group 2) can retreat as normal, but all must retreat together. This is the only time you can retreat aircraft before other units. Note that the aircraft must retreat with all ground units that came OVER LAND and not off the transports.
You must specify when taking casualties, whether you are removing ground units that came over land or off transports, as you are losing them. This can sometimes be important.
So, if the attacker decides to retreat Group 2) (which would be any and all aircraft along with any surviving ground units that came OVER LAND and not off transports), then that would leave all units from Group 1) (ground units offloaded from transports) to fight the remainder of the battle to the death.
Technically, Aircraft don’t retreat “with” other units. When the attacker declares that they are retreating, all units disengage (if able - ie amphibious assaults).
While other land or sea units move to an adjacent space they passed thru, the air units STAY in the attacked space, and are moved away during the noncombat phase. You are not obligated to use one of the aircraft move points to stay with the land/sea units that retreated (although that may be the path chosen).
Right
Can an AA gun activate a friendly neutral?
Afraid not Cond1024.
Has to be a ground unit with an attack value.
Wittmann speaks true
If UK get war bond tech do both London and India get to roll it or do they only get one roll to share?
