Spitfire & ME-109

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onT:
What about the FW 190? Well, it did see some regular service,though not in numbers that would compare to the Me 109 (but compared to all the other fighter types, it did rather good IIRC). And the comparison with the Spitfire, there it is important to give the Mk of the spitfire, as it saw more and major changes during the war than the 109…

What about the FW 190? Well, it did see some regular service,though not in numbers that would compare to the Me 109 (but compared to all the other fighter types, it did rather good IIRC). And the comparison with the Spitfire, there it is important to give the Mk of the spitfire, as it saw more and major changes during the war than the 109….

Hands down the FW 190 would smash Spitfires. The FW 190 outclassed the Spitfire in area except for turning radius. However, the FW 190 met its match in the form of the P-51 and P-47. And yes, it is important to name the Mk of any plane, be it Spitfire, Me, Fw, or P.

Stubborness on part of the Germans or their lack of ability to innovate?

I seriously doubt it was lack of German innovation :-?
Maybe they mass produce the plane because it was a capable aircraft, through out the war, and still quite deadly in the hands of competent pilots.

despite being outclassed in every area except turn radius the spit won the battle over britian….

Maybe they mass produce the plane because it was a capable aircraft, through out the war, and still quite deadly in the hands of competent pilots.

Any plane would be deadly in the hands of competent pilots, though the Germans really should’ve switched full production to the FW.

@Guerrilla:

despite being outclassed in every area except turn radius the spit won the battle over britian….

Yup, with the main point already mentioned: Fuel.
The Me109 was not designed to fly that far before fighting, it was more an interceptor than an escort fighter. Plus: It is always easier to defend than to attack (to bring reinforcements e.g.).

despite being outclassed in every area except turn radius the spit won the battle over britian….

I have yet to see stats heavily favoring the Me-109 against the Spitfire during the BoB.

Plus: It is always easier to defend than to attack (to bring reinforcements e.g.).

I wouldn’t say so… especially if the attacking team has knowledge of combined fighter-bomber formation.

If you go into tactics, then the main reason for the weaker performance of the Me 109 probably was the weak bombers of the germans. I mean, the only planes capable of defending the He 111 or -even worse- Ju 78 was not the bombers themselves but their escorts. So, if the germans had paid more attention to heavy bombers (something that Göring fortunately did not understand), these could have take care for themselves longer and the escorts would have had time to watch their own back also.

If you go into tactics, then the main reason for the weaker performance of the Me 109 probably was the weak bombers of the germans. I mean, the only planes capable of defending the He 111 or -even worse- Ju 78 was not the bombers themselves but their escorts. So, if the germans had paid more attention to heavy bombers (something that Göring fortunately did not understand), these could have take care for themselves longer and the escorts would have had time to watch their own back also.

I would agree with you F_alk, the Germans just followed different trains of thoughts with the British regarding the use of bombers after WWI. However, my point still stands, I have yet to see stats heavily favoring the 109 over the Spit. If you want to compare the Spit MK II vs the Bf-109 (the types that were used during the BoB), the MK II had speed and maneuverability over the 109 (though the 109 could outclimb the Spit).