German Taxation of Prostitution…

@cystic:

@F_alk:

Not in the beginning: …

not necessarily true.
…

You are right, that’s why i wrote that first line. Later, once the stuff is legal anyway, the people will look for best prices more. But i think in the start they will look in the white market, especially as even a high taxed legal good (with smaller profit) will probably not cost as much as an illegal good with high profit. So, for the customers, there will be not too much of a price change in the beginning (from high profit illegal to low profit, high tax legal) so they won’t care for the price but for quality and legality. And quality is another point were the legal sources can “score” against illegal drugs.

@F_alk:

@cystic:

@F_alk:

Not in the beginning: …

not necessarily true.
…

You are right, that’s why i wrote that first line. Later, once the stuff is legal anyway, the people will look for best prices more. But i think in the start they will look in the white market, especially as even a high taxed legal good (with smaller profit) will probably not cost as much as an illegal good with high profit. So, for the customers, there will be not too much of a price change in the beginning (from high profit illegal to low profit, high tax legal) so they won’t care for the price but for quality and legality. And quality is another point were the legal sources can “score” against illegal drugs.

You may be right about your first point.
With regard to your second - well, quality might be an issue to you and i in terms of safety, however not knowing you very well, i am guessing that you’re key interest in life right now is not finding “safe cocaine”. If i was a user (and not trying to wean myself/clean myself) i think i would be less likely to go for some sanitized “safe” version of the government’s drug and more apt to opt for something a little more “interesting”. (sorry about all of the “”"'s) The more interesting stuff may establish a dealer’s reputation and may make them more profitible - the legitimate stuff might look more sterile in comparison and therefore without the kick and thus the added appeal. Am i making any sense this morning?

@cystic:

well, quality might be an issue to you and i in terms of safety, however not knowing you very well, i am guessing that you’re key interest in life right now is not finding “safe cocaine”.

You are right, at the moment i am looking for sleep :), finishing preparing my talk and getting some experimental data…

If i was a user … i think i would be less likely to go for some sanitized “safe” version of the government’s drug … The more interesting stuff … may make them more profitible - the legitimate stuff might look more sterile in comparison and therefore without the kick and thus the added appeal. Am i making any sense this morning?

Kind of :)… but i would guess the kick comes chemicals, and “safer” drugs would mean purer, therefore a smaller amount (and less money?) for the same kick…
This of course does not hold for mixtures (which seem to become more and more common), which you refered to AFAI understand. But then, if you have some brains left you could mix yourself. This of course may very well be problematic if you are a regular user (to have some brains left i mean).

I’ve been to Germany once, to Berlin! Cuz I was living in holland for a year and a half (got back to Canada last july) So we went to Berlin on a class trip…it was alright, lol but in the bars and stuff, they’d serve us our drinks last, and give us bad service and stuff cuz we spoke English! Ahh well. Went to belgium too, that was ok.

(and of course Holland is the place to be if we’re discussing prostitution) I didn’t live in Amsterdam though, I was in Rotterdam. Went to red light district maybe twice, lol was pretty interesting :)

lol…saw this on much music - part of an interview

Eminem: so yeah, Amsterdam was great. I dunno, I’m calm in Amsterdam and it helps me think.
Interviewer: Ahh ok. So what’d you do in Amsterdam?
Eminem: Did drugs n wrote nods ….just kidding, no drugs. But I wrote…a lot.

@El:

Re: prostitution…
Legalize it and you increase another group of victims…

I don’t think i can follow your reasoning……

Legalized prostitution can be done in controlled conditions, illegal prostitution can be done on a street corner or in the back of the van. Which is safer?

Honestly, I don’t really care which is safer. The only people who’d get hurt are the ones who committed the crime. I simply don’t think it reflects good on our society if we were to start selling our women for sex. :( Just because our country made a controlled situation out of prostitution (theoretically) doesn’t mean we are the only ones who have to worry about it. IMAGINE the sex trade and how much it would expand if kidnapped Russians (and others) could now be shipped here legally…

@Deviant:Scripter:

…The only people who’d get hurt are the ones who committed the crime. I simply don’t think it reflects good on our society if we were to start selling our women for sex. …

Which crime?
Ant the notion of “our women” looks like you think that you/the society/males own “their” women. Something that makes sense when put into context with some of your other posts…… but not for me.

Controlled Prostitution…

Required License.
Required Inspections of the Bunny House.
Required Consent (Otherwise… its still illegal!)

It’s not a moral question. There is nothing wrong with sex. We’re not, supposed to be, a Christian state.

Y_guy, It’s like sex with or without condoms … both are unsafe. Abstinance is best. Whoa! That’s even more appropo than I planned!
@D:S:

The only people who’d get hurt are the ones who committed the crime.

I disagree as per LJ(even if illegal)…
@El:

Legalize it and you increase another group of victims… wives, girlfiends and significant others(Never let it be siad that I wasn’t trying to be inclusive/PC here.) Even if you leave out the STDs, you’ve got a group who cannot trust government to help them maintain the commitment in their relationships. Of course, there are different levels of commitment. How about contracts drawn up between wives/girlfriends/significant others and husbands/boyfriends/s.o.?

…though I’d have to hear more of the contract solution.

@Yanny:

Controlled Prostitution…

Required License.
Required Inspections of the Bunny House.
Required Consent (Otherwise… its still illegal!)

It’s not a moral question. There is nothing wrong with sex. We’re not, supposed to be, a Christian state.

Well, I guess we’ll have to disagree on this point. Seems to me that selling your body for sex definetely comes down to an issue of morality, but to each-his-own. :( As for the Christian State, you can have morality in a society without being Christian, surely you should know this? Morality doesn’t neccessarily equate to religion.

Ant the notion of “our women” looks like you think that you/the society/males own “their” women.

It’s got nothing to do with “owning” women, it has to do with respect. Obviously contrary to your principals, I have always believed that we should protect the women in our society, rather than exploit them.

Something that makes sense when put into context with some of your other posts…… but not for me.

Well, I could put into context the image your posts paint of you, but I’d rather not waste my time insulting someone over the internet. :roll:

@Deviant:Scripter:

Ant the notion of “our women” looks like you think that you/the society/males own “their” women.

It’s got nothing to do with “owning” women, it has to do with respect. Obviously contrary to your principals, I have always believed that we should protect the women in our society, rather than exploit them.

You protect them in cases where they may not have asked for it. You deny it, where they may have asked for it. You say you respect them, but you don’t seem to care about their opinions. To me that is a contradiction.
They are human beings with the same rights and responsibilities as you and (you and me being both male).

It’s got nothing to do with “owning” women, it has to do with respect. Obviously contrary to your principals, I have always believed that we should protect the women in our society, rather than exploit them.

Your not exploiting someone who wants to be exploited. D_S you sound like your in favor of outlawing Extra-Marrital sex completely.

And don’t froget all the other stuff, where people sell their body….
like porn “actors”(m/f), models (m/f)…
and of course those who sell what their body can do: pro sports(wo)men, construction workers … all workers indeed…
and those who sell what parts of their body (say brain) can do… anything creative etc. etc. …

Fishing is dangerous. We shouldn’t let people get paid for fishing.

Unless you start paying the fisherman to hump his fish, I’ve got no problem with it. :wink:

Whats wrong with sex Deviant? Enlighten me.