2011 Tournament discussion (AA50-41)

Well Quarks DONE, and Italy hasn’t even gone yet.

Who’s next?

@Gargantua:

Well Quarks DONE, and Italy hasn’t even gone yet.

Who’s next?

Hope you enjoy beating up on the newbies . . .

I always do, everytime. :evil: :-o

@mojo:

no. without a map to verify, we have to type summarys.  hey you can have the allies with 5. place your unit, and i’ll start germany on thursday afternoon. i work midnites so i’m off to work now.  good luck

ok :)

@mojo:

no. without a map to verify, we have to type summarys.  hey you can have the allies with 5. place your unit, and i’ll start germany on thursday afternoon. i work midnites so i’m off to work now.  good luck

1 ten to Egypt :)

cheers :)

There are NO friends or family in the tournament, I want to make this CLEAR.

You are all my enemies, and I hate each and everyone of you individually, with passion, and villianity.  Spit and vinegar.

I hope you ALL FAIL in your bid for the title.  There can be only one!

……

We can be friends after though :D :D :D.  Hugs all around!

@Gargantua:

Oh - and there is going to be an award for who talks the most trash this year.

So… you’re finally going to win something, huh?  :evil:

I think that Triple A is far better then playing by forum. I don’t understand why in this website they organize competitions in this complicated way. I hope one day they change their mind and I will be pleased to join a competition then.

you do have a point amon sul… development of 1940 OOB should be done by the end of the year on tripleA.

I’ll probably be playing on the lobby frequently. gonna try to complete a game a day over tripleA for a week of my break.  I just love how it is so much faster than playing a game in real life. no chips, no adding and subtracting 60 bucks worth of crap in my head, and instant dice rolls just keep hitting spacebar/clicking.

I am not going to be on this forum lol.

1940 has wayyy too many countries to play by email. Then you got to ask if he scrambles and crap… omg hell no. Also more naval warfare so each round you have to ask what his casualties are…

I rather just sit down for 4-6 hours… oh battle oh i can scramble up to 3 fighters… I click how many I want to send… oh ok he choose those casualties… click if I want to lose this naval or that or tilt my AC but not lose the whole thing… etc.

yeah it is faster…

I imagine scramble bugs will be fixed relatively quickly, but I imagine there will be known fighter bugs… that only come up in so many games.

I just can’t imagine 1940 global here or PBEM… especially because there are some naval battles… I want my opponent to roll first. then I CHOOSE my casualties . then I ROLL. then he choose. and proceed like such.

in aa50 it happens sometimes if I got japan carriers in caroline J1 with 3 fighters on top… and USA feels like giving it a stab… 1-2 hits I lose carrier fighter… 3+ I i lose both carriers. stuff like that.

Many of us don’t have the time or the chance to play various hours online in a daily basis. Thus, forum is the best solution for us

Also, AABattlemap is easier to modify than TripleA  :wink:

About the naval battles of G40 … those that think that you can skip naval battles in AA50 (infamous ignore Japan  :roll:) deserve lose  :-D

what’s wrong with ignoring japan in aa50? hell when usa goes pacific I usually don’t buy more naval till R3 japan. no reason too as japan’s naval is still superior, may as well get more guys to take the money.

It’s not like usa going pacific stops japan from taking more territories. usa doesn’t make more money than japan. Japan still has enough starting resources to plow through china by R3-4 no matter what, india R3 at the latest, russian territories start getting taken by r4 as well.

usa can’t stop that, unless japan is getting bad luck everywhere. Even then you could have owned in europe while japan was slow mode.

Then again most players take africa seriously, you can have uk retake it back himself sure… but what happens when japan starts taking parts of africa? Also russia gets conquered most of hte time if it is just UK + russ vs germany.
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europe is where the money is at anyway. germany itself is 10, the entire africa is worth less than germany.
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people who go pacific in aa50 are obviously screwing around and not playing seriously.

Funcioneta… forum play takes longer than PBEM on triplea. you don’t have to type out movements as they are saved for opponent viewing… only type stuff when you had to edit a bug.

anyway triplea doesn’t have global yet. Still global will take an eternity to resolve a game.

come on now, people been having 3 day games. it would take you most of the year to get 1 game done going back and forth.

@Cow:

Funcioneta… forum play takes longer than PBEM on triplea. you don’t have to type out movements as they are saved for opponent viewing… only type stuff when you had to edit a bug.

anyway triplea doesn’t have global yet. Still global will take an eternity to resolve a game.

come on now, people been having 3 day games. it would take you most of the year to get 1 game done going back and forth.

I disagree totally. One has yet to make the movements in TripleA anyway (and Triple A is a real pain when loading and unloading troops). One still has to roll dices in the forum anyway (to prevent cheats), and there are some bugs in TripleA that doesn’t appear in AABattlemap. A important fail with TripleA is that you cannot see how many tech teams have you, and there are some other minor issues …

By average, games with AABattlemap vary from 1 to 3 moths (assuming 1 post each day average), but I guess that if I’d really want play a PBEM game with a person that is playing at the same time, using AABattlemap could achieve that 3 days / game you talked about. I never had a game that lasted 1 year

Func, I’ve played alot of TripleA pbem and Battlemap, and TripleA PBEM goes about 10x faster, and requires about 10x less effort to play a game.  It’s also essentially bug-free, and essentially cheat-proof.  While I generally don’t play tech, most of the main developers and testers do and they have worked out the bugs.

I have to say, I prefer playing by forum.  Of course, I have never played on tripleA so who knows…  :lol:

is tripleA real time?  ie, you and your opponent have to be online at the same time?

@Cow:

what’s wrong with ignoring japan in aa50? hell when usa goes pacific I usually don’t buy more naval till R3 japan. no reason too as japan’s naval is still superior, may as well get more guys to take the money.

It’s not like usa going pacific stops japan from taking more territories. usa doesn’t make more money than japan. Japan still has enough starting resources to plow through china by R3-4 no matter what, india R3 at the latest, russian territories start getting taken by r4 as well.

usa can’t stop that, unless japan is getting bad luck everywhere. Even then you could have owned in europe while japan was slow mode.

Then again most players take africa seriously, you can have uk retake it back himself sure… but what happens when japan starts taking parts of africa? Also russia gets conquered most of hte time if it is just UK + russ vs germany.
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europe is where the money is at anyway. germany itself is 10, the entire africa is worth less than germany.
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people who go pacific in aa50 are obviously screwing around and not playing seriously.

The problem is that AA50 is broken. You cannot win as Allies unless your rival(s) is (are) very inferior or unless Allies receive some bid. Even with bid, 1941, if you ignore Japan, you’re giving the japs 2 very good strategical options:

1. The classical assault on USSR works because Japan is quicker than the USA/UK combo and Germany is usually stronger than USSR

2. The other option is invade America with Japan: make a effort enough strong to stop USA to sending any to Europe. Since Japan has much more income than USA by round 4-5 as much (and is even worst if USA loses Alaska and Hawaii), Japan still has income to send troops to USSR or Africa

1942 is scarier for Japan ignorers, because Germany is even stronger and has a very solid chance to build a Baltic fleet. Even if you buy a India IC and Japan doesn’t do India crush, ¿can you kill the Baltic fleet (that is menacing yankee supply lines), kill the Italian fleet (that is supporting Africa and making life more difficult for UK) and also save USSR while Japan is attacking USA’s rear?

Any case, the only thing that does ignoring Japan is letting Axis achieve economic superiority even sooner without giving Allies a garantee of beating Germany. You have to fight all the map

@Cow:

what’s wrong with ignoring japan in aa50? ….

people who go pacific in aa50 are obviously screwing around and not playing seriously.

Most of the time, I agree with you, but there are times when you should go after Japan.  One is when you have a bid there, or if Japan stumbles out of the gate (bad dice/choices)

The reason this is better is because if you can stop Japan from becoming Godzill, it’s easier to win the game.  Allowing Japan to grow unfettered turns the game into a race:  Who get’s who’s capital faster.

Yes, this is what A&A usually is about, but the race is accelerated in AA50 (1941).

I believe the allies (RE:USA) need to keep Japan honest, if not to keep one $5 NO for themselves, but also for UK too.  Keeping the Japanese navy honest will keep some fighters in the pacific and help keep pressure off Russia’s back door as well as less ftrs in Europe.

I actually welcome a KGF effort by the allies, it’s easy to defend fortress Europe with Japanese fighters whilest I produce tanks to hammer Riussia’s back door.  Let Japan do all the work.

USA certainly has a fine line to walk.

@Boldfresh:

I have to say, I prefer playing by forum.  Of course, I have never played on tripleA so who knows…  :lol:

is tripleA real time?  ie, you and your opponent have to be online at the same time?

Clearly you’ve got mad love for AA50, so you should check it out.  I’m on the lobby right now–TripleA takes 2 minutes to install.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/triplea/
http://tripleawarclub.org/ (community site for the PBEM ladder)

Zhuk, do you prefer tripleA, and if so, why?