Israeli Editorial: Kill Arafat; End the Double Standard

Yanny, you were talking about the Israeli’s firing missles into crowded streets etc…. well the palestinians a deliberately taking out civilians but the Israeli’s, just trying to take out terrorist leaders… granted, the Israeli’s have made mistakes, but they are not necessarily trying to kill local population…

Israel’s Government should be held to a much higher standard than Palestinian terrorists.

Ok Yanny. Lets stick you in a location that you have a legitimate claim to, SURROUND you by various others that also have a legitimate claim, ally them against you, and have them constantly torment you with attacks. we will see how high a standard you wish to be held to when you inevitably retaliate.

mistakes happen yanny, its impossible for them not to. the israeli attacks on terrorists killing innocents is a shame, but

1. they are not necessarily innocent, we just dont know of any connection they may have to terrorists.
2. the israelis are not deliberately targeting innocent civilians, while the terrorists are.
3. if the israelis stop their attacks altogether, they will not be spared from being attacked

The Israelis are wiping out terrorists.

I fully support them in this.

Why don’t people who support Hamas ever ask JORDAN
about Black September?

Why, because JORDAN is an ARAB (Islamic) state and it
wouldn’t be too PC to admit an ugly, “ethnic cleansing”
type thing took place in the early 70’s, AND –-
the victims were Plestinians, living in Jordan.

Arafat needs to die. He is the LAST person in the world who wants peace.

If peace broke out, he’d be out of a job. It is amazing that in
the territory known as the Palestinian “Authority” most workers make
wages that are barely subsistent, and Arafat the great leader has over 30
(mostly german) cars and millions in the bank.

The Palestinians can leave the PA and work in Israel if they want
to, and make wages a lot better than in the PA. BUT in order to do that
they have to pay a tax to the PA (that’s Palestinian Authority in case I’m losing you) in order to work in Israel….

Arafat is not an Islamisist.
He is a terrorist. I sincerely doubt he cares much for Islam.
Arafat, like Bin Laden, HIDES behind religon. Arafat HIDES behind
civilians that HE has put in harms way by recruiting people with the
promise of Martyrdom. He USES Islam to further his aims.

Sorry folks-he has to go.

you know maybe the Palestinians would stop the terrorism if Israel ended the occupation and removed all the illegal settlements……

They started to do that, but their generosity quickly ended when they realized that the bombings still continued. It was part of the roadmap to peace. :roll:

@Deviant:Scripter:

They started to do that, but their generosity quickly ended when they realized that the bombings still continued. It was part of the roadmap to peace. :roll:

Israel still controls large parts of the West Bank and Gaza. There are 150 jewish settlements in the West Bank. (look at bbc.com for several articles if you are intrested).

Is it really that generous to give back part of what you have occupied ?
If someone stole 100 dollars from you and gave you back 50 would you be grateful?

Good to see you back, Mangas. :wink:

Is it really that generous to give back part of what you have occupied ?
If someone stole 100 dollars from you and gave you back 50 would you be grateful?

It’s much different than that. It’s as if that person was in the process of repaying your 100 dollars, when all of a sudden you bash him on the head while he’s trying to pay you back.

@El:

@MC:

Is it really that generous to give back part of what you have occupied ?

It ain’t occupied or Occupied Territories.
It was land won in a war(excuse me) wars!
How many wars can you cite in which the victor gave land back to the loser. I can think of one. After WWI France gave land back to Germany AFAIR.

If anyone is improperly in the territories it’s the Palestinians…
cuz no one will have them!

There was no nation of Palestine before or during the time of Israel.

You know land that is occupied is usually won in a war……

After WW2 Japan and Germany got most of their land back.
I am sure I can come up with more examples later…

You say that there is no occupation , let me qoute Sharon:
“You cannot like the word, but what is happening is an occupation – to
hold 3.5 million Palestinians under occupation. I believe that is a terrible
thing for Israel and for the Palestinians,”

“It can’t continue endlessly,” Sharon said. “Do you want to stay forever in
Jenin, in Nablus, in Ramallah, in Bethlehem? I don’t think that’s right.”

Even a man like Sharon recognizes that there is an occupation.

There’s an occupation alright and it’s not the Isreali’s…

True this is an occupation, but who went to the UN first for the establishment of nationhood?….

@Deviant:Scripter:

There’s an occupation alright and it’s not the Isreali’s…

right.
It’s Iraq. . . .

Well, some things:

in WWI, no allied Army made it onto german soil. That’s why the legend of the "stab in the back’ arose.
In most wars the winner gave back some of the conquered territory, and kept some other parts. But then, in those days there usuaully was a peace treaty sey up for these things.

For the “giving back and stopping building new settlements”, you should really pay more attention.
“We keep establishing new settlements, but we must not cheer about them anymore” …something along these lines was said by Sharon after the road-map was “put into action”.

1.) What do you think would happen (realistically) if Israel killed Arafat?

2.) If they sent him to another country?

If they killed him, then Israel should prepare itself for something that makes the Intifadas look like kindergarten party.
If they sent him away, they would lose whatever little control they have over him, not making their situation better.

Hmmm, what if he just disappeared one day? (IDF snatches him) And Isreal denies all involvement?

Well, noone would believe them.
Israel is to fundamentalist muslims like Saddam was to GWB. Whatever the first says, the second would not believe a word.