• '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yes, but if America ignores Brazil because it is cost prohibitive to them, at that moment (as in they need the cash to reinforce Europe nad can’t afford Brazil atm) you could make some serious cash off it.  3 rounds = 9 IPC gain for Japan with the effect of 18 IPC gain for the Axis. (9 lost IPCs to the allies, 9 gained for the Axis.)


  • Which is why I said the means to cover that is to put 2arm in Panama, and violate Columbia when Japan moves to Argentina.  This way Japan will not make any money off Brazil.


  • Jen,. forget violating neutrals in the Brazil strike.

    Go via Panama (grabbing Hawaii, Panama and West Indies along the way).
    Or take the Southern route and grab Australia, New Zealand and then Brazil.

    Either way, you are there in fewer than 6 moves.  You start the move in J2, once you have TRNs to spare.  Around J5 you are in Brazil and J6 you are landing in Western Africa.

    Unless the Allies move to stop you… which is fewer forces against Germany (ALWAYS a good thing when playing the Axis :-) )

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    That might work, Switch, if you bring a sizable fleet with you.  At least you could use your fleet against the Britianican (UK/USA) fleet and help keep them off Germany for a few rounds.


  • It can work without ANY fleet.

    With a major fleet so far from home, you invite being wiped out with little gain.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Actually, I’d just hit the American fleet in it’s infancy (at least knock out that BB) and then return to Japan with the remnants.  After all, you don’t actually need 1 AC and 2 BBs for Japan once you’ve decimated the American navy.  You might even want to consider sacrificing the ships against the British fleet and follow it up with a luftwaffe attack to resink the British fleet.

    Japan’s in the best position to rebuild a navy anyway.  It’ll take America 3 rounds to attack her by sea. (1 round to build, 2 rounds to move) and there’s no way they’re going to do it in two rounds anyway, since they absolutely must build enough to take Japan and, as Japan, you’ll have plenty of time to put a few subs in the water to stop that.

    So basically, the choice is, retreat into the Pac to support it and stop America from thinking about it or follow through after Pearl and try and hit the British fleet once.

    It’s almost a non-issue if you play 2H BBs since you’ll get 4 BB shots at the british fleet, more then enough to cripple it.  It’s a bigger question when you have to wonder if the Brits/Americans will sink them with their fighters before you get there.


  • Well Jennifer, you get to test your theory out against the maddog. It’s japans turn. What will you do? I’ll let you in on a military secret. I have no ambition whatsoever to send US resources to play with the jap navy. What I will do is gang up on the germans with a vengeance untill the germans cry for their mommy. What would you propose to do about that hypothetical situation? That would make them jap bb’s about worthless wouldn’t it?


  • The U.S. need not take Japan.  All they have to do is take the islands.  This created a large swing.  If the Japanese want to take them back they either have to split their navy or vacate the Japanese SZ.  If they vacate the Japanese SZ, they have lost their ability to transport infantry to the mainland and the Allies I.C. should finish off the Japanese.  The U.S. really only need 2-3 Subs, 1FIG, 1AC, 1BB, and 1 TP to cause serious problems for the Japanese in the Pacific.  The subs can often split off form the main fleet as Japan can rarely spare the sorties to try and sink them and doing so requires fully manning their AC which pulls FIGS from the mainland…


  • One question- while the U.S. is farting around in the pacific taking islands, where’s the pressure on germany??


  • The pressure in Germany comes form the fact the Russians alocate few or no resources at Japan.  The Brits man two TP.  The U.S. has multiple Tp in the Atlantic.  I don’t get your point.  You act as if the U.S. doesn’t buy 3 TP on turn 1 in the Atlantic on turn 1 they apply no pressure on Germany which is bunk.  Your first Tp are going to land in Africa nayways.  U1 1 TP lands.  U2 1TP lands.  U3 2 Tp lands.  u4 3TP lands.  At any point here you can combo your TPs also.  I don’t think investing 26 I.P.C. to completely neuter Japan is farting around.  While the U.S. is “farting aorund” the Japanes can’t land forces where they need to.  They have to devote TP’s to possible casualties meaning they can’t function at full capacity, etc.  I wouldn’t call keeping Russia’s rear secure “farting around”.  I wouldn’t call causing a 12-14 point IPC swing “farting around” …while keeping British held territories secure.  Can the Japanese move their ships west to attack inida and go into Africa and the middle east while there is a U.S. fleet?..no.  Can they swing down to hit Australia and NZ anytime they want?.. no


  • I still think it’s farting around  :-D


  • @MADDOGG:

    I still think it’s farting around  :-D

    HAHAHA.  Touchee.


  • Wanna play me and test them goofy theories out?? TOUCHEE!  GOTCHA


  • @MADDOGG:

    Wanna play me and test them goofy theories out?? TOUCHEE!  GOTCHA

    Wanna drive out to the middle of nowhere?  Touchee! :)


  • But seriously.  Where can I get the online version cheap?  Would love to play some online games.


  • We play by e-mail mostly. There are dice rolling sites that send the results via e-mail. They have map services available also, but I’m stubborn and prefer to use my physical board.


  • Okay.  sounds cool.  How do I do that?  Where do I get more info on how to do that?  You stubborn…wouldn’t have guessed. ;)


  • Try this site….aamcbunker.net/main/login.html      It will ask you for your e-mail address and your opponents e-mail address. Then it will want to know which country is up, what round it is, your purchases, combat moves,etc. Just keep following the instructions.

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  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Ya know, I’m really warming to the idea of ICs for Japan while it’s fleet gathers its infantry off their island bases and completes the conquest of the Pacific/Madagascar.

    I always leaned more towards the flexibility of the transports instead of ICs, resulting to ICs only once I needed armor to assist in the destruction of Moscow…

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