wittmann is right, the Italians can’t participate in the German attack so they are bystanders. By rule the German transport should endure one round of combat, then it can retreat if still alive (unless you are playing a friendly game and allow the German player to rethink his move based on the new info).
How much can be bled? Convoy disruption question.
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Scotland and London.
Sz109 services both Scotland and London and has a convoy zone marker - it can be bled 8 IPC’s if under convoy disruption.
Sz119 services Scotland and has a convoy zone marker - and it can be bled 2 IPC’s if under convoy disruption.
The question is, if I have 4 subs in Sz119 and 1 sub in Sz109, is Britain bled 10 IPC’s?
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No, only 8.
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8, although the rulebook seems not all water tight about it…
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actually, might be 10…
“each disrupted convoy can’t lose more IPC’s than the total IPC value of controlled territories or islands adjacent to the sea zone”“zone”, not plural, so…
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Hmm…we’ve been playing it as 10. Could be wrong, though.
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Exactly my point…
LOL imagine collecting - IPC’s? That would be interesting… you LOSE that unit to pay your bills!
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UK can lose only 2 IPCs from sea zone 119, as it only touches Scotland. It can lose 8 IPCs from sea zone 109, as it touches both Scotland and United Kingdom.
4 subs in sea zone 119 and 1 sub in sea zone 109 will result in a reduction in income of 4 IPCs for UK. However, 4 subs in sea zone 109 and 1 sub in sea zone 119 would result in a reduction in income of 10 IPCs. In any case, income may not be reduced below zero.
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So in theory you can take 4 from Greece too, and 2 from Syria?
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Yes.
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Damnit, if only I had known that last game, I would have made England pay that much more!
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No, only 8.
I am glad that this is not the official ruling, Having the ability to ultra-reduce a countries income with subs add’s more depth to strategic gameplay. Especially for Germany.
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what??
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don’t worry too much about this scenario actually fully happening.
Germany needs to buy plenty of subs for this bleeding operation (less IPC’s going to russia), and they know a sub fleet (in 109) can be taken with 1 DD + lots of aircraft (which can’t get hit, so Allies risk only a DD).But if there are no planes in UK, thàt is a whole different story
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But if there are no planes in UK, thàt is a whole different story
That’s part of the strategy :) And how can they build planes? When their income is sub 20.
And who said the Germans would be the only ones with subs out there?
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italian subs? kinky!
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Tasty is a better description :)
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how the hell can you bock resources that are already blocked?
how can scotland be blocked for 4 IPC???
it’s madness i tell you…and i already thought there were far to many convoys in the game…
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Yes.
that can’t be possible
please put it in errata, or ask harry
but if you start to lose money in this game by taking territories (eg, Greece gets subtracted 4 IPC every round), than there’s something wrong…
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