Getting attacked inside the Denmark Straight from Norway


  • @MaherC:

    I really wish we could get some brainpower going to AAA so we could all play more games, faster, with different opponents.  I’d love to be wrong about this, but when you look at the ticky tack BS that is building with each release of the AA franchises, I’m losing all faith in LH and co.

    Huh? We already play many games quickly with many people on the online forums


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    It usually costs Japan 6-7 inf and one turn. In return, those inf can never be used to defend China or Moscow and Japan has an empty Siberia in front of it

    1 Turn is QUITE a big deal IMO


  • No matter how smart the 20 playtesters of WOTC are, the collective brainpower of a couple hundred players each playing an average of a few games will always trump the playtesters’ experience.


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    Huh? We already play many games quickly with many people on the online forums

    Well there are quite a few AA players that have wives/kids/jobs that can’t spend the time doing PBEM.   in the time it takes to reset the global board, I could have played 2 turns on AAA.


  • @MaherC:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    It usually costs Japan 6-7 inf and one turn. In return, those inf can never be used to defend China or Moscow and Japan has an empty Siberia in front of it

    1 Turn is QUITE a big deal IMO

    Not when Japan is only at war with China and Russia. And it gains many turns later in the game when Germany doesn’t have to worry about 18 inf beefing Moscow on turn 7 or 8


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    No matter how smart the 20 playtesters of WOTC are, the collective brainpower of a couple hundred players each playing an average of a few games will always trump the playtesters’ experience.

    exactly my point of why I wish AAA worked.  to balance this game as best as possible before too many people lose interest.


  • @MaherC:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    Huh? We already play many games quickly with many people on the online forums

    Well there are quite a few AA players that have wives/kids/jobs that can’t spend the time doing PBEM.   in the time it takes to reset the global board, I could have played 2 turns on AAA.

    And how is that problem solved by the creators of the game? They’re actually making many of us(just those who enjoy doing so, mind you) examine and explore a plethora of strategies and how to fix any imbalance. That is a silver lining to the fact that the game may be imbalanced.


  • @MaherC:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    No matter how smart the 20 playtesters of WOTC are, the collective brainpower of a couple hundred players each playing an average of a few games will always trump the playtesters’ experience.

    exactly my point of why I wish AAA worked.  to balance this game as best as possible before too many people lose interest.

    Wait, you’re talking about TripleA, right?


  • However, I’m intrigued by ozeta’s “reestablish the railroad” strat for the 18 siberian inf.


  • Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

    Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?   Except in that we paid for something that is broken.   If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.   I BOUGHT one.

    Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.   We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.   Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.


  • @MaherC:

    We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.   Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

    QFT.  I’m a temporarily unemployed college student who does have a good bit of free time to spare, hence the 20something games I’ve played so far.  However even I have a difficult time justifying the amount of time it would take for my group to balance this game purely on our own, and I absolutely love AA.  This is why I wish the community could move past denying the clearly unbalanced (i still hesitate to use broken, although I’m leaning in the direction) nature of the game and start working together to figure out what needs to be changed.  The alpha setup just makes me want to facepalm having played it now.


  • In any AA version I have playex if the less experienced folks are playing the Axis they just dont see the Allied weaknesses.

    To this point we are mostly inexperienced at this game. Germany has its hands full in the Atlantic. Japan has time in the Pacific.

    Find some ways to win initiative with Japan.  Mostly with Japan i find i can split my nave two thirds off Japan one third Malaya and go afyer India wholesale.

    What are the Americans going to do? Take the Carolines with Australia and sit there building a navy?  They’ll be able to trap your transports in airbase protected Japan and far away Malaya but timed right you will be cranking out ten inf a round in Malaya and four or so from Japan to Korea.

    Sealion or the threat of it paralyzes the British for the first three turns. They must build land units in England and I believe Taranto unbalances the math against them.

    Italy gets Egypt then heads for India or Stalingrad before the British from South Africa can get there.

    The Axis have to stretch the board quickly. I favor earlier attacks. America’s ipcs are far away. India and the UK need every buck they can scrounge. Japan can make much better use of twelve or more DEI dollars than the US gets from their bonus


  • @MaherC:

    Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

    Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?  Except in that we paid for something that is broken.  If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.  I BOUGHT one.

    Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.  We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.  Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

    I have over 5000 posts, not 4000. I also have a life. I am a junior with 4 AP classes and a college class. I don’t have 12 hrs/day free time to play AA


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    @MaherC:

    Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

    Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?   Except in that we paid for something that is broken.   If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.   I BOUGHT one.

    Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.   We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.   Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

    I have over 5000 posts, not 4000. I also have a life. I am a junior with 4 AP classes and a college class. I don’t have 12 hrs/day free time to play AA

    Shut up nerd.


  • I am going to have to think long and hard how to stop US from Getting Norway because once they do and have a major complex there building fleet inside the straight means Germany has to pretty much fall back to it’s capital.

    I don’t think a fleet in the Baltic will work because US bombers could crush it.


  • @MaherC:

    @calvinhobbesliker:

    @MaherC:

    Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

    Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?  Except in that we paid for something that is broken.  If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.  I BOUGHT one.

    Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.  We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.  Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

    I have over 5000 posts, not 4000. I also have a life. I am a junior with 4 AP classes and a college class. I don’t have 12 hrs/day free time to play AA

    Shut up nerd.

    I would have thought that nerds would be more experienced with AA and understand the math behind it.


  • Calvin, take a break from the forums and please come up with the super axis strat that shows this game isn’t broken/unbalanced.  use OOB setup.  K thx.


  • @MaherC:

    Calvin, take a break from the forums and please come up with the super axis strat that shows this game isn’t broken/unbalanced.  use OOB setup.  K thx.

    Sorry, I only play alpha now.

    Besides, there is no “super axis strat” since everything a country does depends on the moves of other countries.


  • In this game, more than in any other, one has to react to their opponent’s move


  • The United States is the thing that breaks this game wide open. Until the US gets in, the Axis are pushing forward slowly but steadily. When the US gets there, they tend to cave in.  I think if we want to suggest fixes we should look at reducing US income, forces or capabilities in some way. I realize that historically our production was the same or even higher, and historically with the US in the war the Axis didn’t have much of a chance. To give the Axis a chance, we need to change history.

    We could reduce the wartime bonus and/or the income from the original territories. We could make rules such as the U.S. may not build any new factories or may not collect income from liberated territories. We could restrict the territories on which the US may land or rule that the US must split its money between theaters in some way. We could even say that until the US is at war, it may purchase but make no non-combat movements (I like this last idea the best). Players could potentially bid for control of the Allies by accepting higher levels of restriction on the US.

    As a side note, what’s with all the hostility on this thread? If someone bothers you just ignore them. All they are is words on a computer screen.

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