Getting attacked inside the Denmark Straight from Norway

[MaherC]

@calvin

I think you are inexperience because by your own admission you have only played 1 side of the game so far.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

Frank:

We’ve played 5 full games, rotating who has what sides etc.   So it’s not just a stuck in the rut way of thinking or anything.    Calvin describes a very passive Russia with regard to the siberian 18.

It’s the same thinking that doomed the OOB setup for pacific.  People are afraid to use planes as soakers, so there’s no way Japan will attack with 1 inf
and 2 planes….

Even if I lose 18 infantry as russia (57 IPCs) what is that going to cost Japan?  Time, Ground units that can’t be replaced quickly.

It usually costs Japan 6-7 inf and one turn. In return, those inf can never be used to defend China or Moscow and Japan has an empty Siberia in front of it

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

@calvin

I think you are inexperience because by your own admission you have only played 1 side of the game so far.

That is a valid criticism. However, gamerman, a much better player than me, has employed excellent axis strategies. Although he agrees that the game is tilted towards the allies, I doubt he thinks it is broken.

[MaherC]

I really wish we could get some brainpower going to AAA so we could all play more games, faster, with different opponents.  I’d love to be wrong about this, but when you look at the ticky tack BS that is building with each release of the AA franchises, I’m losing all faith in LH and co.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

I really wish we could get some brainpower going to AAA so we could all play more games, faster, with different opponents.  I’d love to be wrong about this, but when you look at the ticky tack BS that is building with each release of the AA franchises, I’m losing all faith in LH and co.

Huh? We already play many games quickly with many people on the online forums

[MaherC]

@calvinhobbesliker:

It usually costs Japan 6-7 inf and one turn. In return, those inf can never be used to defend China or Moscow and Japan has an empty Siberia in front of it

1 Turn is QUITE a big deal IMO

[calvinhobbesliker]

No matter how smart the 20 playtesters of WOTC are, the collective brainpower of a couple hundred players each playing an average of a few games will always trump the playtesters’ experience.

[MaherC]

@calvinhobbesliker:

Huh? We already play many games quickly with many people on the online forums

Well there are quite a few AA players that have wives/kids/jobs that can’t spend the time doing PBEM.   in the time it takes to reset the global board, I could have played 2 turns on AAA.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

@calvinhobbesliker:

It usually costs Japan 6-7 inf and one turn. In return, those inf can never be used to defend China or Moscow and Japan has an empty Siberia in front of it

1 Turn is QUITE a big deal IMO

Not when Japan is only at war with China and Russia. And it gains many turns later in the game when Germany doesn’t have to worry about 18 inf beefing Moscow on turn 7 or 8

[MaherC]

@calvinhobbesliker:

No matter how smart the 20 playtesters of WOTC are, the collective brainpower of a couple hundred players each playing an average of a few games will always trump the playtesters’ experience.

exactly my point of why I wish AAA worked.  to balance this game as best as possible before too many people lose interest.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Huh? We already play many games quickly with many people on the online forums

Well there are quite a few AA players that have wives/kids/jobs that can’t spend the time doing PBEM.   in the time it takes to reset the global board, I could have played 2 turns on AAA.

And how is that problem solved by the creators of the game? They’re actually making many of us(just those who enjoy doing so, mind you) examine and explore a plethora of strategies and how to fix any imbalance. That is a silver lining to the fact that the game may be imbalanced.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

@calvinhobbesliker:

No matter how smart the 20 playtesters of WOTC are, the collective brainpower of a couple hundred players each playing an average of a few games will always trump the playtesters’ experience.

exactly my point of why I wish AAA worked.  to balance this game as best as possible before too many people lose interest.

Wait, you’re talking about TripleA, right?

[calvinhobbesliker]

However, I’m intrigued by ozeta’s “reestablish the railroad” strat for the 18 siberian inf.

[MaherC]

Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?   Except in that we paid for something that is broken.   If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.   I BOUGHT one.

Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.   We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.   Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

[chompers]

@MaherC:

We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.   Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

QFT.  I’m a temporarily unemployed college student who does have a good bit of free time to spare, hence the 20something games I’ve played so far.  However even I have a difficult time justifying the amount of time it would take for my group to balance this game purely on our own, and I absolutely love AA.  This is why I wish the community could move past denying the clearly unbalanced (i still hesitate to use broken, although I’m leaning in the direction) nature of the game and start working together to figure out what needs to be changed.  The alpha setup just makes me want to facepalm having played it now.

[MarkVIIIMarc]

In any AA version I have playex if the less experienced folks are playing the Axis they just dont see the Allied weaknesses.

To this point we are mostly inexperienced at this game. Germany has its hands full in the Atlantic. Japan has time in the Pacific.

Find some ways to win initiative with Japan.  Mostly with Japan i find i can split my nave two thirds off Japan one third Malaya and go afyer India wholesale.

What are the Americans going to do? Take the Carolines with Australia and sit there building a navy?  They’ll be able to trap your transports in airbase protected Japan and far away Malaya but timed right you will be cranking out ten inf a round in Malaya and four or so from Japan to Korea.

Sealion or the threat of it paralyzes the British for the first three turns. They must build land units in England and I believe Taranto unbalances the math against them.

Italy gets Egypt then heads for India or Stalingrad before the British from South Africa can get there.

The Axis have to stretch the board quickly. I favor earlier attacks. America’s ipcs are far away. India and the UK need every buck they can scrounge. Japan can make much better use of twelve or more DEI dollars than the US gets from their bonus

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?  Except in that we paid for something that is broken.  If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.  I BOUGHT one.

Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.  We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.  Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

I have over 5000 posts, not 4000. I also have a life. I am a junior with 4 AP classes and a college class. I don’t have 12 hrs/day free time to play AA

[MaherC]

@calvinhobbesliker:

@MaherC:

Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?   Except in that we paid for something that is broken.   If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.   I BOUGHT one.

Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.   We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.   Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

I have over 5000 posts, not 4000. I also have a life. I am a junior with 4 AP classes and a college class. I don’t have 12 hrs/day free time to play AA

Shut up nerd.

[Chompers2]

I am going to have to think long and hard how to stop US from Getting Norway because once they do and have a major complex there building fleet inside the straight means Germany has to pretty much fall back to it’s capital.

I don’t think a fleet in the Baltic will work because US bombers could crush it.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@MaherC:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@MaherC:

Yes, I’m talking about TripleA when I say AAA.

Didn’t say it was WOTCs fault that we have lives?  Except in that we paid for something that is broken.  If I wanted to MAKE a game, I would have done so.  I BOUGHT one.

Sigh, I broke my own rules for talking to you on the forums, once again you and your 4000 posts will merely default to your basic ideas, that LH and WOTC are our gods, and we must do their bidding, and I also forgot that my group has been playing AA since before you were born.  This isn’t an attack on you, just again you have a different viewpoint from mine about freetime.  I do not lock myself in my room with a 12pk of pepsi and play with myself to see what I can do to fix the game.  We get 8 hours off from the wifes/kids/responsibilities of the world and would like to crack a beer and see if we can usher in the 1000 year reich.  Not see how many more planes we need to add to the German setup to make it fun.

I have over 5000 posts, not 4000. I also have a life. I am a junior with 4 AP classes and a college class. I don’t have 12 hrs/day free time to play AA

Shut up nerd.

I would have thought that nerds would be more experienced with AA and understand the math behind it.