Re: Field Marshal Games Pieces Project Discussion thread

[Imperious Leader]

Interesting.

The packaging should be in a box with the pieces on sprues. The shipping box and box for the pieces could be the same box as long as its sturdy.

[dinosaur]

I have three questions at this point.  First, when you sell the pieces, are you going to sell them by nations (e.g. American set = $15, British set = $15, …) or are you only going to sell them as a complete set of nations (Americans, British, Russians, Germans, Japanese, Italians = $80)?  I would like to see them offered by nations and have a discount for buying 4 sets, 5 sets or 6+ sets.  In this way, folks that play Pacific could buy the sets they want without paying for Italians and Germans.  Also folks could buy one set at a time if they were on a tight budget.  Also 5 sets = Revised and 6 sets = AA50.

Second, what price level are you kicking around right now?

Third, when do you see this coming to market?  In time for Christmas?

As mentioned earlier, I would consider making some US pieces in UK colors and possiblt some German pieces in Italian colors.  This won’t matter to me because I paint mine anyway, but some may want to have these.  Maybe you could call them Allied cross dressers.  :-D

[LuckyDay]

@Emperor_Taiki:

@LuckyDay:

naaah, you’ve got poland, france, denmark, norway, netherlands (belgium, holland, luxembourg), all occurred before Dunkirk, plus maybe you could hit east poland or finland before the USSR.  could even hit stuff with Italy/Japan earlier too… sky’s the limit!

no you have already excceded the limit, only finland happened in 39, the norway campaign would be interesting if there was an airborne peice, and there was hardly a battle in the netherland, although I agree that the game should start at the begining of May so that it includes the first part of the battle or France.

AA50 starts 1941, AA40’s start May 26th - Evacuation of British Expeditionary Force from Dunkirk… so:
September 1st, 1939 - Germany invades Poland.
May 10th, 1940 - Germany invades France
April 9th, 1940 - Germany begins occupation of Denmark and invades Norway.
May 10th, 1940 - Germany invades (Netherlands) Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg.
September 17th, 1939 - Soviet Union invades eastern Poland.
November 30th, 1939 - Soviet Union invades Finland.

[LuckyDay]

@Imperious:

Interesting.

The packaging should be in a box with the pieces on sprues. The shipping box and box for the pieces could be the same box as long as its sturdy.

yeah, that’d work, should be easier on the handling fees and FMG’s time and expenses too.  Personally for the box I’d think it would be go big or go home.  Either a top notch box with power’s names/roundels or just the simple shipping box and we can get our own boxes to sort any other pieces from stock games we’d like.  Or just both options with associated price difference.  but the pieces really have to be the priority.

[Imperious Leader]

I like the box idea. I offered to design the package and i will do a good job!

[Upside-down_Turtle]

Your maps are good, so the boxes should be pretty neet.

Cavalry for each nation would be sweet, though.  Lets wait for a FMG WWI release.  Then WWIII.

[whitewolfmxc]

Is it too late for new units to be added in ? >< theres so much units id like to see (like dive bombers / escort carriers)

[Adlertag]

@whitewolfmxc:

Is it too late for new units to be added in ? >< theres so much units id like to see (like dive bombers / escort carriers)

its nver too late man, i like paratrooper unit, marines unit, mountain inf unit, ski troops with winter gear, also i like ats landing crafts, pt boats, hoovers, light tanks, medium tanks, heavy tanks, artillery, heavy artillery, trucks, halftracks, and this is just for the land units, want lots of air units and naval units too man.

[whitewolfmxc]

Well heres  some id like to see (that currently is not on the list plan) :

Extra Unit  set : (all are faction specific ) (could work as a second project after this one)

Dive bombers (Stukas etc can pick land targets or sea targets depending land or sea battle , cant land on carrier) , Jet fighters (Me262 etc ,) , Long range (super) bombers (B29) , Carrier air groups (Hell cat / Zeros etc only 2 movement points can act as fighter or dive bomber / torpedo bomber depending on attacking land or sea zones , can only land on carrier) , transport / supply planes ,  rockets

, Heavy tanks (Tigers , Churchill tanks etc lol) , light armored / recon vehicles (Puma / Grey hound etc) , Tank hunter tanks / Infantry support tanks ( jadpanzer / stugs etc may chose its role before combat) , Self propelled artillery / rocket artillery  (Hummel / priest / stalin wind pipe etc , fast arty support but only supports  1 tank for attack  ) , 1 elite unit for each nation (SS mech infantry for Ger / marines for US / Calvary For china / Paratroopers for British / Red Guards for Russia / Black coats for Italy / MP unit for Jap (forgot official name)    etc)

,  Escort carriers , battle cruisers (Pocket battleships like Germany) ,

Buildings  set : ( All are generic ) factories (supposedly  smaller than the AA ones and may look a bit different to distinguish  different factory types) , AA guns  , Coastal defenses (naval gun emplacements) , Mines , Sea mines , Sea ports , Air ports , Rail roads , rocket launch sites , radars

Accessory items sets :  (can be sold separately ) Chips (White count as 1 extra unit , gray counts as 3 extra unit , Red counts as 5 , use dimensions as AA 50 as its smaller due having more lol ) , nation control markers (faction specific) , damage markers , Tech markers , Event markers (exclamation mark ? XD ), victory city markers ( Bright yellow V Sign ? ) , insurgence activity sign (Civilian with guns sign XD) , Command HQ marker , IPC money

[Upside-down_Turtle]

Dive bombers, allong w/ 2 tanks will be included.

There will also be 2 infantry types: Light Infantry, and one other (Marines? Airborn?).

I would agree with keeping the number of infantry the same, but offering 3 types.

A self-propelled artillery unit would be good, perhaps as a tech, though.  3-2-2-6.

[Guest]

How about partisans with pitchforks.

[Black Fox]

Whitewolf

Pretty much everything you have mentioned has been said at one point.  I think FMG is going to start with the basic plus a few of the most popular request.  If all goes well, I’m sure they will add more.

If you go back around 10 pages, I think FMG gave a list of what they are going to make for the first round.

[trackmagic]

Hey FM It sounds like you are already making a molded part, but for future reference have you ever seen this technology?

Stereo lithography:
http://www.3dsystems.com/products/sla/iPro/ipro_8000mp.asp

I’m pretty familiar with these machines, and normally its considered an expensive technology, but for small parts like that you would be using so little material it might be cost effective. I’m not aware of any colored resins, but you could paint them.

[FieldMarshalGames]

@trackmagic:

Hey FM It sounds like you are already making a molded part, but for future reference have you ever seen this technology?

Stereo lithography:
http://www.3dsystems.com/products/sla/iPro/ipro_8000mp.asp

I’m pretty familiar with these machines, and normally its considered an expensive technology, but for small parts like that you would be using so little material it might be cost effective. I’m not aware of any colored resins, but you could paint them.

Thank you for the post.  Yes we are familiar with 3D printers.  Our factory uses them to make the prototypes.  When I post pictures, the first ones will be from models from one of these machines.

[Guest]

FMG - Have you finalized the list of what’s in and what’s out?

[FieldMarshalGames]

Yes we have.  The first Edition run will include the following for each Nation (Italy included)

Naval Units:
Transport
Submarine
Destroyer
Cruiser
Carrier
Battleship
Task Force Marker (Similar to AAP)

Air Units:
Fighter
Bomber
Dive Bomber
Air Transport

Army Units:
Infantry (Two Sculpts each)
Armour (Two Sculpts each)
Artillery
Half Track (Priest for Commonwealth units)
Truck
Commander Unit

Other Units Bonus:
Bunker Unit
Naval Base Unit-Marker (Like AAP)
Air Base Unit-Marker (Like AAP)
Army HQ Unit-Marker

This is what we have so far….  (We also are working on a BATTLE CHEST to hold these units… This may come later)

[Imperious Leader]

wow thats alot!

[Black Fox]

NIIIIIIICE! :-D

[Guest]

Okay FMG thanks for the list. I am getting really excited. Just one more question. Do you have a final list of which countries will be represented?

[whitewolfmxc]

NICE ! XD

when do we expect to give preorders ? im so willing to help you guys speed up things XD

PS: The first page should be updated with  the new list then FMG ? Also any hints on whats the 3 secret pieces yet ?