Operation Sealion a Possibility with AA1940 Europe?

[Guest]

@idk_iam_swiss:

Can anyone explain to me why americans dont really like french people?

@idk_iam_swiss:

Can anyone explain to me why americans dont really like french people?

It probably has a lot to do with their quick surrender in WWII and their avoidance of getting involved in international hostilities ever since.

[LuckyDay]

no, france didn’t start them, it was that they couldn’t win them…

why do americans dislike the french?  why is it that no one asks why the french dislike americans?  Americans are thankful for the french aide in their revolution, twas invaluable.  Nowadays, the americans are often made to feel that the rest of the world dislikes them, especially the french…  perhaps the americans are hurt that after all they did to save france from communism that they felt slighted that they have to pay to rent the land that was used for cemeteries for the soldiers fallen at Dday…?

@Funcioneta:

@LuckyDay:

of course, if you look at how Russia got a 6 month headstart getting into the war and it is 6000 km from washington dc to berlin as compared to 1400 km from moscow to berlin, and still russia only made it to berlin first by a matter of days…

Well, in fact, USSR (not Russia) could had arrived a couple of months before, maybe even more. But Stalin wanted ensure soviet influence sphere on Balkans and eastern Europe,

and Patton couldn’t have gotten there months earlier had Montgomery not gotten all of his supplies used in Market Garden…  it would have to be alot more than 6 months to make up the difference in the 3000+ kilometers…
@Funcioneta:

War in Europe was won before D-Day (soviets would win anyway alone at that date), that’s credit for soviets. But D-Day saved France from stalinism, that’s credit for USA & UK

War in Europe was far from over before Dday as a win for the Soviets.  Had Germany not had a Western Front, they could have utilized it’s factories at full capacity without American/UK bombing and resources would have headed to the East without pause.  The American supplied Soviets would have been pounded to dust even with Hitler’s neurotic commands (which would have been lessened by the lack of the Western Front).  Credit the Soviets for sucking American supply lines.

Switzerland was not impassible in ways similar to the Himalayas or the Sahara, and for those reasons I don’t see any reason it shouldn’t be as playable as Spain or Sweden…

[Guest]

Well said Lucky Day. A +1 to you.

[Funcioneta]

@Adlertag:

In 1914 Austria was defending herself against serbian terrorists, not very different from yours 9/11 and muslim terrorists today, and this could have been a small local war if France had not declared war on Germany, and pushed Germany to attack through neutral Belgium.

9/11 is not mine, we Spanish had our own terrible 3/11 instead :oops: And you cannot compare killing two people with a gun with killing thoundsands of people with a suicide stolen aircraft

In fact, Austria sent a ultimatum to Serbia. Serbia said it was an anarchist and that not was Serbia’s fault. Austria DOWed Serbia and Russia felt they had to aid their little serbian friends, so they DOWed Austria. Then, Germany, forced by alliance with Austria, DOWed Russia. Then France & UK, allied with Russia, DOWed Germany. That was fault of alliance systems that time, and was Austria the first one attacking (you cannot blame serbian state because one annarchist, and Austria had not proof of Serbia supplying the killer)

[idk_iam_swiss]

whats DOWed mean?

[lozmoid]

Declaration Of War. In this case, I would have thought it meant ‘declared war on’.

[maverick_76]

I had a French guy cuss me out the other day, apparently they think you are patronizing them if you don’t know their language and try to speak it.

[Guest]

You should have asked him, “Where was all that French spirit in WWII?”

[maverick_76]

I think he was Canadian French.

[Guest]

Wasn’t it Ted Nugent who said, “The only thing worse than a frenchman is a French Canadian”

[maverick_76]

Not sure, his Canadian friend that was with him said, “Not only is he French, he’s angry French!” I just laughed because I think it was a moment of lost in translation, no offense was taken by me at least.

[Guest]

I wish I was like that, unfortunately when someone starts yelling at me, their life is in danger.

[maverick_76]

Well lets just say it might have been different if I actually understood what he was saying. But since I didn’t, so what do I care about what he calls me in another language?

[Guest]

Well in any case you definitely did the right thing.

[Adlertag]

well in any case you definitely got off topic

[Guest]

Okay about the topic of Germany invading England…… Where were we?

[idk_iam_swiss]

It would have worked if he wasnt fighting a two front war. IF russia isnt a problem I think you can take out england.

[WILD BILL]

I think a Sea Lion attempt may still come down to who gets control of the French fleet. If it stays w/allies, if it is scuttled, or if Germany has a chance to take part of it over. If the axis (and thats a big if) gets naval superiority in the Atlantic (remember US isn’t there yet). If Italy can take out Gilb through Spain or by amphib allowing its fleet access to the Atlantic. Axis should be able to add to its fleet in the Atlantic via French IC on the coast. Germany should also have its own coast line to the North Sea if the map is to be accurate. Of coarse a full scale Sea Lion will leave Italy weaker in Africa and the Balkans. It will also allow Russia time to bulk up. Taking out the UK early would defiantly set the allies back. It would be some time before what was left of Britain & France could come together and make a liberation attempt if at all. They may have to wait until the US enters the war. I would think that a successful Sea Lion would bring the US into the war.

[Guest]

Taking out UK would also set the Allies back.

[idk_iam_swiss]

It ohh yeah it would make things a LOT easier for germany. then they could focus on russia