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Players like @Karl7 were particularly fond of the re-roll years ago, like 1 per player.
League rules are not changed for things like this, including some tweaks to the OOB game that crockett36 was bringing up, which led to this whole discussion.

Preferences like the re-roll, even if popular among a number of players, will not make its way into the league rules or defaults because they are departures from A&A.

So you will probably not have a hard time finding a player who likes your idea and agrees to do it, but there is no way I’m changing the league rules for house rules because everyone has the right to play pure A&A.

League rules address issues like declaring fighters on carriers because Triple A doesn’t do it, or time limits for making a move.

I appreciate everyone’s participation and ideas, but I want to make it clear that the vast majority of these discussions will not change league rules because #1 is not pushing or requiring players to play a house rule. The BM and PTV mods are fully supported by the league because they are separate from the OOB. In the case of BM, it is a collection of many “house rules” but no one is pressured to play it, is the point. The OOB version is the default that will not be changed.
The BM version, also, has a default that is what the designers made it, so again, even with BM no house rules are incorporated in league rules for the same reason.
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OOB Oysteilo +40 v Gamerman01 with tech - UHD map

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This time I remembered zone 125. Barely. That gravy train is derailed now
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L25 BM sunkhareb (Allies+23) v Omni (Axis)

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 4 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Americans take Tunisia from Italians 1 armour, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in France Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in France rolls: 8 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in France causes 6 damage total. Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Battle in Holland Belgium Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands Place Units - Americans 1 infantry placed in Western United States 4 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States 2 tactical_bombers placed in Western United States 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Chahar Combat - Chinese Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan 3 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan 3 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan 2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Suiyuyan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 124 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Tobruk British take Alexandria from Italians 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Tobruk 1 fighter moved from Algeria to Tobruk 1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to France Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in France Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in France rolls: 8 and causes: 0 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in France causes 0 damage total. Battle in 124 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 124 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 124 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 124 Sea Zone British win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Tobruk British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Italians defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Tobruk, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 6/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Tobruk 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians, 2 artilleries owned by the Italians, 2 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Tobruk British win, taking Tobruk from Italians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 6 fighters moved from Algeria to Normandy Bordeaux 2 fighters moved from 124 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 3 submarines moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Persia 6 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia Place Units - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 110 Sea Zone: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Italians owned units to: factory_minor = 6 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.00 Italians regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans AA : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.17 British regular : 5.00
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Lebowsky {axis} vs simon33 (allies+16)

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@lebowsky said in Lebowsky {axis} vs simon33 (allies+16):

Oh i wasnt thinking about It actually, just noticed It now. while I was reading the OOL in the other post

Surprised by the attack then. I had 2 units which could absorb a hit and repair, even if it will take a couple of turns to get to SA. You lost 5 planes to my 2.
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L24 PTV Adam514 (Axis+13) vs GeneralDisarray (Allies)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 13 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 10 infantry, 1 marine and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Japanese take 36 Sea Zone from Americans 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla 2 bombers moved from Japan to Guam 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Honan Japanese take Honan from Chinese 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Manilla Battle in Davao Battle in Paulau Battle in Tsinghai Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Tsinghai, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Tsinghai 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai Japanese win, taking Manilla from Americans, taking Davao from Americans, taking Paulau from Americans, taking Tsinghai from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Guam Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 artillery Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Guam, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Guam, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Guam Japanese win, taking Guam from Americans with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery Battle in 44 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 44 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Americans with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 45 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Guam to Jehol 3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Burma 1 aaGun moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Tibet to Burma 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Tsinghai to Burma 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Burma 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan 4 artilleries moved from Hopei to Honan 9 infantry moved from Hopei to Honan 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Honan 3 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia 1 artillery moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. 1 aaGun and 1 artillery moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 7 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hokkaido to 36 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to French Indo China 1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tibet to Yunnan Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in Malaya 2 infantry and 1 marine placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 71 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.33 Americans regular : 0.00 Japanese regular : 1.00
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L25 Playoff OOB GeneralDisarray (X) V ABH (A) Bid 50

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Round: 7 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Novgorod Russians take Novgorod from Germans 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kursk to Russia 1 armour moved from Stalingrad to Tambov 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 6 artilleries, 33 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Gorky to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Gorky to Samara 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Gorky 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Kursk 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Rostov 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 16 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kursk to Tambov 2 aaGuns, 3 armour and 15 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. Place Units - Russians 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Urals 1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 35 PUs
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L24 OOB GeneralDisarray (X) vs AndrewAAGamer (L+60)

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Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 3 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk Italians take Bryansk from Russians Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Italy 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria 6 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Western Ukraine Place Units - Italians 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,3,4,1,3,3,1,5,3 Italians collect 6 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs
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