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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Germans 3 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 4 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 118 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 118 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 118 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 118 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 118 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 118 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 7 armour, 1 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 7 armour, 1 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 6.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 7 armour, 1 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 4 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 2 bombers moved from 118 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eire to 112 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco Germans take Morocco from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 5 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg 1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Vyborg 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3 Germans collect 40 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 40 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.50 Germans regular : 1.50
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VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 2

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@VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 2:

@DoManMacgee

It turns out it is actually not a bug, but a feature of the rules (thanks to Panther for pointing that out).

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So in that case, I would’ve retreated from Ukraine to East Poland. Here is the corrected save file: G1 corrected.tsvg

And I will remember this possibility in the future.

Sorry for interfering:
Actually I pointed out that the old TripleA-Europe map is code-wise based on Classic.
In case you play the Europe-map and want to play by the rulebook, the Europe rules follow newer rulesets. From the Europe (1999) rulebook:
“The attacking land units may only retreat to
an adjacent friendly territory that was under the owner’s control
at the start of the turn – and from which any of the attacking
land units came. The units must all withdraw together to the
same territory.”

That denies a retreat option to East Poland in this case.

So when playing Europe players must take care of this specific rule themselves. As v1 rules (Classic) differ from the Europe 1999 -rulebook.

(Reference: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/41391/was-able-to-retreat-to-a-just-captured-territory)
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Was able to retreat to a just captured territory

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It looks like the players - once again - have to take care of the game rules themselves. As v1 rules differ from the Europe 1999 -rulebook.
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L24 BM4 Avner (Axis) vs Ghostglider (Allies+22) Rematch

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 7 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 10 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Denmark 4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Denmark 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Finland to Novgorod Combat - Germans Battle in Denmark Germans attack with 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 7 infantry British roll AA dice in Denmark : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Denmark, round 2 : 3/16 hits, 3.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 7 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Denmark 1 aaGun owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Denmark Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Denmark, round 3 : 3/12 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Denmark, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Denmark 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Denmark Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Denmark, round 4 : 3/11 hits, 2.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Denmark, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Denmark Germans win, taking Denmark from British with 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry Casualties for British: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 7 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry French defend with 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 airfield Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium 2 infantry owned by the French lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 2 infantry Battle in Novgorod Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 2.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 4 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Denmark to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in Western Germany 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine Germans undo move 1. 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Western Germany 4 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1 Germans collect 40 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 40 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33 British AA : -0.33 Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 3.50 British regular : -0.67
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Adam514 (Allies) vs MikawaGunichi (X+11)

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 13
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Amur to Siberia 1 fighter moved from Japan to Siberia 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha Japanese take Sakha from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone Japanese take 22 Sea Zone from Americans 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Malaya to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China Combat - Japanese Japanese creates battle in territory 40 Sea Zone Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking 40 Sea Zone from French, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 37 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in Siberia Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Siberia Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 20 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 20 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 20 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in 44 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 44 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 45 Sea Zone from UK_Pacific with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in French Indo China Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in French Indo China, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China Japanese win, taking French Indo China from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 marine moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 battleships, 9 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 3 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 2 battleships, 9 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 3 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from French Indo China to Malaya 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 45 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 132 Sea Zone 4 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 5 infantry moved from Buryatia to Ulaanbaatar 1 fighter moved from Siberia to Buryatia 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 carriers placed in 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Malaya 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Shantung 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.50 UK_Pacific regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.33
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AndrewAAgamer (Allies) vs. Germany (Ragnell804)

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You don’t see it is balanced? Interesting.

The Allies had an outlier at a start in the most important battle of the game; Omaha Beach. As you can see by the chart below 65% of the time no German units escape from Omaha Beach. Add in another at least 5%, from the Blue 13%, and that makes it 70% of the time no German units survive Omaha Beach. This, BTW, matches my DDay gaming experience.

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In our game 6 German units survived to fight on, only a single unit was killed. That means, at the start of Turn 2, the Germans had 6 MORE units on the board than they should have 70% of the time. At the beginning of Turn 9 there are 14 German units still on the board, one being a blockhouse so really only 13 combat units. Thus, without those 6 extra units there would be only 7 German units on the board which means the Allies would have won.

The above is not even taking into consideration that the Germans had 6 more units firing at the Allies during the game which obviously would have had an effect too.

And, since the overall dice came out fairly even, the dice during the game was not affecting this sole outlier. As you can see the Axis shot slightly better than the Allies…

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Larry Harris 3.0 Setup Cards for Printing.

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@F4D3D see the original post. There is a link to the original cards. Larry Harris modified only German and Britain. The other setup cards are the same.
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Dawg (Axis) vs VF (Allies) - Classic with Restricted Attack, No New Complexes, Neutrals Impassable, Tech on Turn 4

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Great to see it works! Turn info is not necessary, I like just posting the save file and the combat hit differential summary if any.