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TGC (Allies) vs. Kwaspek104 (Axis), 2025 Classic Tournament

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Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Germany to United Kingdom 1 submarine moved from West Spain Sea Zone to West Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from East Europe to Anglo Sudan Egypt 1 fighter moved from West Europe to West Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Finland Norway to East Canada Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to West Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Algeria to French Equatorial Africa Germans take French Equatorial Africa from British 1 armour moved from Libya to Anglo Sudan Egypt 1 infantry moved from Libya to Anglo Sudan Egypt 2 infantry moved from South Europe to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to East Mediteranean Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from East Mediteranean Sea Zone to Anglo Sudan Egypt Combat - Germans Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3 and costs: 3 PUs. Bombing raid costs 3 PUs Battle in East Mediteranean Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 transport British defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 transport in East Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in East Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in East Mediteranean Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in Anglo Sudan Egypt Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry British defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt Germans win, taking Anglo Sudan Egypt from British with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in East Canada Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter British defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in East Canada Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 transport in East Canada Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in East Canada Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in West Mediteranean Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 battleship Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in West Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 fighters in West Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in West Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in West Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the British lost in West Mediteranean Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship Non Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Baltic Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Zone to East Europe 2 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 3 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 1 armour moved from South Europe to East Europe 2 armour moved from Germany to East Europe 4 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 1 fighter moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Libya 1 fighter moved from East Mediteranean Sea Zone to East Europe 1 fighter moved from West Mediteranean Sea Zone to East Europe 1 fighter moved from West Mediteranean Sea Zone to West Europe 1 fighter moved from East Canada Sea Zone to West Europe 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to West Europe 1 armour moved from West Europe to East Europe 1 aaGun moved from South Europe to East Europe Place Units - Germans 2 infantry placed in South Europe 8 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 35 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
British AA : -0.17 Germans regular : 1.50 British regular : -0.83
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TGC (Allies) vs. Ragnell804 (Germans) D-Day

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AA Classic - DoManMacgee (X) vs. Martin (L)

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@Martin Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 armour and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 2 armour and 4 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 1 submarine moved from Baltic Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from West Spain Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Finland Norway to North Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from West Europe to North Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Algeria to French Equatorial Africa Germans take French Equatorial Africa from British 1 infantry moved from Libya to French Equatorial Africa 1 armour moved from Libya to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to Black Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Black Sea Zone to Caucasus 1 battleship moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to Black Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Finland Norway to Baltic Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Baltic Sea Zone to East Europe 1 bomber moved from Germany to North Sea Zone 2 armour moved from West Europe to East Europe 1 armour moved from South Europe to East Europe 2 infantry moved from South Europe to East Europe 2 infantry moved from West Europe to Germany Combat - Germans Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 armour Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Russians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Germans: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in North Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 submarines British defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport; Russians defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in North Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in North Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 transports in North Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Russians, 1 transport owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from North Sea Zone to East Europe 1 aaGun moved from West Europe to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Germany to East Europe Place Units - Germans 10 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 33 PUs; end with 35 PUs
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Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 1.50 British regular : 1.00
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WaW Witt Germany best, Ron Italy, Seb and Wayne as Japan.

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L24 OOB surfer (X) vs AndrewAAGamer (L+60) #1

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@AndrewAAGamer Nope. Not worth it.
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L24 BM4 Surfer (Allies+23) vs Avner (Axis)

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@Avner Oh, i absolutely don’t mind!! We’ve built up the entire game to have a battle…of course the fact that my side is favored makes it that much better :)
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Invitational Classic 2nd edition

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Great, I will add these to the “guidelines” tab of the bracket spreadsheet,

I recall there is some other rule in conjunction with the placing new sea units rule…

Something about submarine withdraw? Please enlighten
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Out of the Box 2nd Edition League Discussion

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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris is speaking succinctly, and speaking for most of us,

We want to preserve the base ruleset as much as we can and if a player wants some modification and the other doesn’t, then the default is the actual out of the box rules. This has been agreed upon as a higher priority, so that OOB players interested in league can jump right in, and current or departing league players can seamlessly play OOB outside the league.

Bidding definitely creates the opportunity for more chaos and cheese, and of course any bid is a modification of the game start, but it is not changing any mechanics or rules of play after game start. If a player doesn’t like 40+ bids, he should propose alternatives to his opponent, who will often be agreeable.

This is where you can say, hey, let’s reduce German NO’s from 5 to 3 and then the bidding can be lower. In my latest game, after bidding started I realized I wanted to know where his bid was going to be, so I revealed mine and asked if he’d reveal his. Then I knew I wasn’t going to face a starting placement I wouldn’t like. So you can get creative with your opponent, but when you don’t agree, out of box rules are your fallback.

The default league rules are not effectively a restriction or a hindrance, they are a safeguard that protects players from being expected to play something other than out of the box, when they just want to play out of the box.

Pretty much total freedom is given to two players who want to doctor up any crazy modifications of out of the box they want, and the game will still be counted in out of the box league play, which is very lenient. Conceivably even a small band of players could be playing in OOB league play with all their unconventional rules, but as soon as they want to play someone else in the league who doesn’t want those rules, the league rules protect the “normal” player.