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Was able to retreat to a just captured territory

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Tested with G40:

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So it does not happen in Global1940.

But I don’t know which core ruleset (old) Europe is based on codewise. So it might be that there are older core games where this issue has been incorrectly implemented.

I will start doing some tests recursively now. Maybe you can do some tests with older games, too.
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Adam514 (Allies) vs MikawaGunichi (X+11)

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 13
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 13 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Amur to Siberia 1 fighter moved from Japan to Siberia 1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha Japanese take Sakha from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone Japanese take 22 Sea Zone from Americans 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Malaya to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China Combat - Japanese Japanese creates battle in territory 40 Sea Zone Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking 40 Sea Zone from French, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 37 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in Siberia Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Siberia Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 20 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 20 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 20 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 20 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in 44 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 44 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 45 Sea Zone from UK_Pacific with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in French Indo China Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in French Indo China, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China Japanese win, taking French Indo China from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 marine moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 battleships, 9 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 3 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 2 battleships, 9 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 3 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from French Indo China to Malaya 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 45 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 132 Sea Zone 4 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 5 infantry moved from Buryatia to Ulaanbaatar 1 fighter moved from Siberia to Buryatia 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 carriers placed in 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Malaya 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Shantung 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.50 UK_Pacific regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.33
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AndrewAAgamer (Allies) vs. Germany (Ragnell804)

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You don’t see it is balanced? Interesting.

The Allies had an outlier at a start in the most important battle of the game; Omaha Beach. As you can see by the chart below 65% of the time no German units escape from Omaha Beach. Add in another at least 5%, from the Blue 13%, and that makes it 70% of the time no German units survive Omaha Beach. This, BTW, matches my DDay gaming experience.

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In our game 6 German units survived to fight on, only a single unit was killed. That means, at the start of Turn 2, the Germans had 6 MORE units on the board than they should have 70% of the time. At the beginning of Turn 9 there are 14 German units still on the board, one being a blockhouse so really only 13 combat units. Thus, without those 6 extra units there would be only 7 German units on the board which means the Allies would have won.

The above is not even taking into consideration that the Germans had 6 more units firing at the Allies during the game which obviously would have had an effect too.

And, since the overall dice came out fairly even, the dice during the game was not affecting this sole outlier. As you can see the Axis shot slightly better than the Allies…

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Larry Harris 3.0 Setup Cards for Printing.

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@F4D3D see the original post. There is a link to the original cards. Larry Harris modified only German and Britain. The other setup cards are the same.
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Dawg (Axis) vs VF (Allies) - Classic with Restricted Attack, No New Complexes, Neutrals Impassable, Tech on Turn 4

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Great to see it works! Turn info is not necessary, I like just posting the save file and the combat hit differential summary if any.
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MikawaGunichi (X+12) vs ArtofWar Game #3

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Round: 7 Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Eastern Turkey 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 27 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French
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W@W captain walker (axis) vs dawgoneit

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dawgoneit +10 Axis -vs- Daaras Allies PTV

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Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 destroyers, 1 harbour and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Manilla 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan Japanese take Honan from Chinese 1 artillery moved from Inner Mongolia to Kansu Japanese take Kansu from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Kiangsu 1 artillery moved from Buryatia to Ulaanbaatar Japanese take Ulaanbaatar from Russians 1 artillery moved from Buryatia to Buyant-Uhaa Japanese take Buyant-Uhaa from Russians 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R. Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Fukien 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shantung to Kiangsu 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Kiangsu 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 2 bombers moved from Northern Manchuria to Yenisey 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to Manilla 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Manilla 2 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to Davao 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo 2 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 cruiser moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Malaya Battle in Manilla Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers in Manilla, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Manilla, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Manilla Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Manilla from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Davao Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Davao, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Davao, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Davao Japanese win, taking Davao from Americans with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Kiangsu Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kiangsu, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiangsu, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsu 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsu Japanese win, taking Kiangsu from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Borneo Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Borneo 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Borneo Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Yenisey Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Yenisey, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Yenisey, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yenisey Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 2 bombers in Yenisey, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Yenisey, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yenisey Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 2 bombers in Yenisey, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Yenisey, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yenisey Japanese win, taking Yenisey from Russians with 1 armour and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 bombers moved from Yenisey to Northern Manchuria 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hainan to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Hainan to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Borneo to 132 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Fukien 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Fukien 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Fukien 4 tactical_bombers moved from Shantung to Fukien 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Borneo to Fukien 1 aaGun moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Japan 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to Japan 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Shansi 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Manilla to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Davao to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao Place Units - Japanese 1 harbour placed in Hainan 2 destroyers placed in 7 Sea Zone 6 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 61 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.67 Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -0.67 UK_Pacific regular : 0.67 Russians regular : -1.67