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France's role in Global 1940 SE

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@The-Janus said in France's role in Global 1940 SE:

(I find rallying the French into Northwest Persia as sort of an obvious helpful deterrent to the Germans.)

To expand on this a little bit…
I tend to try and get my French infantry from London down into Africa, ASAP (usually using a UK transport, but sometimes US – just depends on what happens in the game.) After that, I try and rally French units towards Egypt, and basically just defend the port until the other Allies clear the Mediterranean.

If you’re trying to support the USSR without putting units in their territory (and thus infringing on their national objective, if they still hold Archangel) Northwest Persia is the obvious place to park 6(ish) French infantry + 1 fighter. They can also be moved up into the Caucasus territory, if that N.O. is not longer a consideration.

If the USSR is in a really bad way, what I’m finding is that the best way for the UK to bail out that situation is to secure the Kazakhstan front; if France is defending the Caucasus (with maybe US tanks racing in, to help) this makes it a little easier. As the UK, you can do this by having 2 transports in the Indian ocean and a harbor in Persia, or by cycling 3 transports between Persia, Egypt, and South Africa (assuming you only want to move 2 infantry at a time; if you want to ship a 3rd unit from South Africa, then you’d need more transports, obviously. If I’m not using that factory to put out transports, I typically just place a tank there and have it drive north, towards Egypt.)

By landing in Eastern Persia, the British are able to insulate India a bit, as well as march up the back wall of the USSR; this is important because of the national objective for controlling Novosibirsk (in 2nd Edition, anyway.) Then the USSR can focus on their core strength, which is trading and defending territories adjacent to Moscow, while holding onto Volgograd for as long as possible. If the UK is also funneling troops into Scandinavia, you can eventually link these up with forces coming through Kazakhstan, to help push the Germans out of Novgorod.

Regarding the French destroyer at Madagascar (I should mention, only in the Europe game, rather than Global) I’ve tended to move this to the Atlantic rather than the Indian Ocean or Mediterranean. If the US is going heavy on carriers or the UK is going more for submarines, having that one French destroyer in the mix can help ensure you can target enemy subs – I’ve occasionally mis-bought as the US while German subs are still lurking around, so being able to move this destroyer to the US east coast for defense can be handy.
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Simon33 (Axis) vs Lebowsky (Allies+16)

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 9 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 3 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya ANZAC take Libya from Italians Combat - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 3 destroyers placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya Turn Complete - French
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L24 BM4 fasthard (X) vs Adam514 (L+22)

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Max defense, with UK units of the same value dying later.
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2024 BM Playoffs Adam514 (Axis) vs pacifiersboard (Allies+22)

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No scramble.
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L24 PtV Stucifer (X+11) vs 666 (L)

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 10 Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 4 PUs; end with 4 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 79 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 81 Sea Zone to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Turn Complete - French
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Territory Summary for ANZAC and French :
United Kingdom : 2 infantry Tobruk : 1 flag New South Wales : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour Northwest Persia : 1 fighter and 3 infantry 79 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer 40 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
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Germans : 52 / 78 Russians : 34 / 35 Japanese : 59 / 82 Americans : 56 / 82 Chinese : 11 / 14 British : 38 / 47 UK_Pacific : 9 / 13 Italians : 10 / 1 ANZAC : 4 / 4 French : 5 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0
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L25 BM sunkhareb (Allies+23) v Omni (Axis)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Italy 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France 4 artilleries moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,2,3,1,6,6,3 Italians collect 5 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs
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L24 PTV MikawaGunichi (X+7) vs Wizmark Game#2

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 14 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 93 Sea Zone to Algeria 2 bombers moved from Gibraltar to Tunisia 1 artillery moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia 1 artillery moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan British take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from Italians 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 28 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Midway Battle in Algeria Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Italians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Algeria, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Algeria Americans win, taking Midway from Japanese, taking Algeria from Italians with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in 113 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 bombers, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 113 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone Americans win with 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in Tunisia Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia Americans win, taking Tunisia from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 2 bombers moved from Tunisia to Gibraltar 1 tactical_bomber moved from Algeria to Gibraltar 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Algeria to 93 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 transport moved from 105 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 28 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 28 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 4 submarines moved from 28 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Korea to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States 2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 3 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol Chinese take Jehol from Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung Combat - Chinese Battle in Kwangtung Chinese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 harbour and 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung Chinese win, taking Kwangtung from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Chahar to Shansi Place Units - Chinese 3 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Kiangsi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta Combat - British Battle in Malta Non Combat Move - British 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western India to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to French Equatorial Africa 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Southern Persia 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Kiangsi Place Units - British 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Southern Persia 1 artillery placed in Union of South Africa 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 submarine placed in 73 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 73 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 73 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 21 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,2,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 132 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3 UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
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Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.33 Italians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : 0.67
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Sealion G1 - Economic Warfare

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@dazedwit my point is that if you can’t win 110, you can’t win sea lion. If Britain wants to stop sea lion they are much better off scrambling in G1 rather than conserving air for the land invasion. Typically in the game german air are more valuable than UK air. I would always scramble in that situation because its very likely that I am trading 1-2 planes against 6.

If Germany uses 9 transports and loses those 6 planes and the British lose 2, the UK doesn’t need to build more than 6 inf before G3 to have a better than 50% chance of denying sea lion. I’m assuming here no J1 or J2 which would make stopping sea lion easier. And I’m calculating with British going with a 92 stack (which would add 2 figs, a tac, an inf and a AA) although I’m sure that won’t strictly be necessary. Obviously even with the bombing and convoying, they should manage more than 6 inf. And they may not need land units at all since they might be able to stop it at sea.

Axis have a significant advantage in the OOB game (absent a bid) and it looks to me that in taking risky combats that you will likely lose, you are trading that away. Of course, the dice can help you out here, but usually they won’t.

But the best way to test strategies will always be against actual competition. At some point I’m sure you will get a chance to test this against other opponents.