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PTV Daaras (x+12) vs General Disarray

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Hi guys, thanks for bringing me in,

Panther is an official Q&A man, too, and his answers A, B, C, D all look correct to me.

My goal is to answer the rulebook questions you have, so I may not explain every angle unless you ask follow up questions.
I need to say I am not sure what GeneralDisarray meant, at times, like with the phrase “creating and leaving a hostile zone”, so I am not really responding to everything you each have said but I think my answers will take care of your needs.

I am using the Europe 2nd edition rulebook and I think Daaras posted 2nd edition Pacific which is fine, same rules, but my page number won’t coincide.

The end of page 13 and beginning of page 14 covers “sea units starting in enemy-occupied sea zones”.

The page 12 blue box explains how to apply this rule when you first declare war.

I’ll just try to clearly apply these rules to your situation here, and if you have additional questions I’d be happy to help.

I see GeneralDisarray moved an ANZ cruiser to New Hebrides and a destroyer to Paulau/Carolines. In each of these zones, Japan has ground units on islands and none on transports.

This creates issues for Japan.
Of course if Japan does not declare war J2, then the ANZ ships are neutral, not at war, and have no effect.

But of course the question is if Japan declares war against UK/ANZAC on J2, what are the effects of these ANZ ships.

The Page 12 rules apply since Japan is declaring war. “During your Combat Move phase in which you entered into a state of war, your transports that are already in sea zones that have just become hostile may be loaded in those sea zones (but not in other hostile sea zones). In effect, transports may be loaded in their initial sea zones for amphibious assaults before war is declared, while the sea zone is friendly.”

So, the rule page that Daaras posted.

Cruisers act as transports in PtV.

So in each of the sea zones ANZ intruded upon, you have the same situation for Japan if Japan declares war on UK/ANZ

(Bullet points on page 14) These are Japan’s choices:
Stay in the zone and conduct combat Leave zone, load units if desired, conduct combat elsewhere Leave zone, to load units or to establish a retreat route, return to zone and conduct combat Leave zone and don’t conduct combat
Then you add in the rule for a new DOW,
Japan can load ground units in the zone, which is normally not allowed, but only for amphibious assaults.
The other 4 bullet points of page 14 still apply.
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L24 PTV Max334 (Axis +12) vs Nikola

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VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with TGC balance, Game 10

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Adam514 (Allies) vs MikawaGunichi (X+11)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Sakha to Siberia Russians take Siberia from Japanese 6 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Ukraine 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Ukraine 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Kursk to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Urals to Western Sinkiang 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Western Sinkiang 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Novgorod Russians take Novgorod from Germans 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus Russians take Southern Belarus from Germans Combat - Russians Battle in Iraq Russians attack with 6 artilleries and 10 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 10 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 4/16 hits, 4.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Iraq Russians win, taking Iraq from Italians with 6 artilleries and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Western Sinkiang Russians attack with 1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun and 2 artilleries Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Sinkiang, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 artilleries in Western Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Sinkiang 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Western Sinkiang Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Western Sinkiang, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Western Sinkiang, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Sinkiang 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Western Sinkiang Russians win, taking Western Sinkiang from Japanese with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 artilleries Battle in Ukraine Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 : 7/14 hits, 4.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 3 : 4/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 armour in Ukraine, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Kursk to Ukraine 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Kursk 3 infantry moved from Timguska to Yenisey 10 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northeast Persia to Northwest Persia Place Units - Russians 10 infantry placed in Russia 2 infantry placed in Stalingrad Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2 Russians collect 35 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 37 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 1.00 Italians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.83 Russians regular : 2.33
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Axis & Allies Victories & Defeats

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The Victories & Defeats has been updated with the 2024 gaming season results.

This is most likely the last update in 2024, since all Axis & Allies games for this year are over.

See the top of this page.

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TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob

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Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 31 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 2 submarines moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Norway to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from British 1 destroyer moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Algeria to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Hungary to East Poland Germans take East Poland from Russians 1 armour moved from East Poland to Hungary 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. Germans take Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians 1 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Bessarabia Combat - Germans Battle in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans 1 transport owned by the British lost in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters Russians defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Russians lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Libya from British to Germans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya 1 infantry moved from Malta to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Crete to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 fighter moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Crete 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 7 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 artillery moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 artillery moved from Austria to Czechoslovakia 1 artillery moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 8 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour moved from Baltic States to Hungary 3 armour moved from Poland to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland 2 fighters moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Norway 1 bomber moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany Place Units - Germans 31 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs 1 unit repaired.
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.17 Germans regular : -0.67 British regular : 0.33
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KoT (Entente) vs. TGC (CP) - 1914

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Round: 6 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter, 16 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Munich 2 infantry moved from Munich to Ruhr 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Hanover to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Berlin to Hanover 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Bohemia 4 infantry moved from Silesia to Hanover 1 fighter moved from Silesia to Ruhr 1 fighter moved from Hanover to Ruhr 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Silesia 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Galicia 1 infantry moved from Romania to Galicia 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Moscow to Karelia 1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Ukraine 7 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 1 fighter, 16 infantry and 1 tank placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
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TGC (Germany) vs. Karl7 (Allies) Original Europe

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Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 battleship and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Germany Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU. Bombing raid costs 1 PU Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Germany to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 artilleries placed in United States 1 battleship and 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans AA : -0.17
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