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Strict Neutrals - Planes Flying Through

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@Krieghund

I get you have been declared an official ruling somehow.

I’ve been playing Triplea live a lot lately…gotten used to clicking “DOW on the strict neutrals.” That’s besides the situation really.

Your ruling to me I think exegetes into the text a fuller meaning not intended.

Germany conducts combat moves into Turkey while simultaneously combat moving planes through Turkey, but due to the ruling this means they somehow really have to simultaneously respect their air space? Makes no sense which makes me think you exegeted into the rule book an unintended end state.

page. 11 Europe book. “Air units can’t fly over an unfriendly neutral unless they are attacking it.”

The point of the rule on page 11 is that you cannot simply fly planes through strict neutrals in general. I cannot see how your interpretation is correct.

For your interpretation, the rule should say all air units no matter what. Because I think they should be able to fly over it if even just 1 infantry attacks the same neutral territory.

Germany is attacking it with air units. Why the interpretation that other air units cannot simultaneously fly through? The rules intent is to prevent flying through when never and not attacking them in general.
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L24 PtV Stucifer (X+11) v ArtofWar (L)

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Intercept SBR in Morocco?
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Sahara express

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@Cornwallis

That’s an option. Just in case Japan captures India and threatens the Middle East. If the US gets good research dice they’re very hard to stop in the Pacific if they put their mind to it.
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L24 OOB Booper(X) v Koala(L+45)

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@koala

Thank you for the game! You played very well, and kept it competitive throughout. Even at the end, I was concerned about a blunder on the Europe a side, so just played conservatively and turtled up in Berlin.

A few thoughts from my side:

Not taking the Philippines on J1 was more due to my inexperience playing Axis, and wanting more margin on the other battles. Probably I would not do it again that way.

Agree the Persia (and Iraq) factories could have been helpful earlier on. Either to supply Moscow with fighters or to help bolster India.

Surprising how the blundering of 2 transports is really felt later in the game. I made a similar blunder in a recent game, and I also felt it turned out to be a pivotal mistake that led to me losing that game. You had Italy in a lot of financial distress due to the sub convoying.

I was not surprised you went for Tokyo, but I was surprised you went for it after not taking Korea with Russia so you could bring in the extra bomber. I adjusted my Japan fleet movement to go to Philippines assuming you would NOT go for it with odds I believe ever so slightly in my favor. Once you committed, I think it would have been worthwhile for you to go all the way. If you could not take it with US, Anzac would have a follow up attempt as well. The loss of income to Japan would have been felt, and could have been interesting to see what Anzac would do with 60+ extra income!

I do feel this was a mistake made on my part by (a) not taking Guam much earlier, and (b) getting too greedy trying to deny China access to artillery by holding Yunnan with help from Japanese planes. If I had left the planes on FIC with the airbase, just flying back a few fighters to Tokyo would have made the threat there manageable. You picked the exact right time to strike!

Once you took Rome, it became a strong base of operations for UK and US. I’ve usually gone north to break into Europe with the Allies, but taking Rome was very effective, especially with the bomber fleet.

It’s possible you may have been able to defend India if you were less aggressive attacking Germany/Italy. I never ran the scenario, but landing the Russian planes, all the British planes that were in Rome, and the US bombers could have enabled India to survive at least a couple extra turns, though not positive on that.

Overall, very well played, and enjoyed the game, thank you!
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L24 Wizmark (X) vs Avner (L+22) BM4 G1

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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Rostov 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov 1 bomber moved from Greece to Rostov Combat - Italians Battle in Rostov Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Rostov 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov Italians win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 93 Sea Zone Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Italy Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa 1 bomber moved from Rostov to Southern Italy 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France Italians take Southern France from Neutral_Axis 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 2 marines and 3 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 marines moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 armour moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Facilities: Italians has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.33 Russians regular : 0.67
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VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 6 - Balance 3.0

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@VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 6 - Balance 3.0:

(3/6)(3/6)(3/6)(2/6)3 + (3/6)(3/6)(3/6)*(4/6)

That is correct for exactly one hit for just the UK stuff. To add in the USA stuff, it becomes a bit more involved:

UK Force: 3 @ 3, 1 @ 4
US Force: 2 @ 3, 1 @ 4
Total force: 5@3, 2 @ 4

So to expand it, we have:
(ODDS OF 1 @3 HIT * ODDS OF 0 @4 HIT) + (ODDS OF 0 @3 HIT * ODDS OF 1 @4 HIT)
(5*(1/2)^5 * (1/3)^2) + (1/2)^5 * 2*(2/3)(1/3)
.0016/9 + .013889 = .0141 = 1.41%
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L24 Wizmark (allies) vs Koala (axis+10)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 5 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Southern Manchuria 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Anhwe to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to Siberia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia 1 bomber moved from Japan to Siberia 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Japan to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Kwangtung 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Fukien to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 marine moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria Combat - Japanese Battle in Southern Manchuria Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 7 fighters, 11 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 17 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Southern Manchuria : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 11 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 13/28 hits, 10.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 17 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 5/19 hits, 6.33 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria 11 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Southern Manchuria Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Southern Manchuria, round 3 : 10/23 hits, 9.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria 6 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Southern Manchuria Japanese win, taking Southern Manchuria from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38 Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 7 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 17 infantry Battle in Siberia Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Siberia, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Siberia 3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Siberia Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Kwangtung, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Trigger Japanese Destroy Factories Siberia: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Japanese in Siberia Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Siberia Has Fallen to Japanese Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Siberia_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed_Japanese attached to Japanese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Manchuria to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to Anhwe 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to Anhwe 1 bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Manilla 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Siberia to Japan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siberia to Hokkaido 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 7 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 77 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 40 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -2.00 Japanese regular : 3.50 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 0.00 Russians AA : 0.00
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L24 PTV Max334 (Axis +12) vs Nikola

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too busy to play I’m guessing