@TG:

@marechallannes:

@TG:

When I was at the Eindhoven Board Game Con, I came across the most remarkable facsimile of Axis and Allies.  It was a Euro-game depicting World War II in Europe.

What’s the name of the game?

Actually, I intentionally left out the name because I’m not 100% sure on it.  It was a German game and I think the title roughly translates in “Europe at War” – but don’t quote me on that.  Maybe our German fans here can help us out on that. ;)

This was at the Eindhoven Gaming Con three years ago.  You might be able to find pictures of the game at the Spellenspektakel website: http://www.spellenspektakel.nl/Home/1/SPELLENSPEKTAKEL.html

@Col.Stauffenberg:

I find it laughable that people think revised and now 42 is some simplistic kids game compared to AA50. So there’s less pieces and territories. Is Chess just a simple game? AA50 is cool but a lot of it is just needless bells and whistles.

Okay, I’m going to have to call you on this one.  Exactly what parts of AA50 did you find “Needless Bells and Whistles?”  Technology?  National Objectives?  Printed Currency?  Because the only missteps I can think of is the placement of the Chinese Fighter and the lack of a Victory City in Cairo.  Other than that, I thought AA50 was a superbly crafted game.

Mainly the extra territories and NO’s. Printed currency is redundant but the Technology was awesome. I’m not bad mouthing AA50, just defending Revised and 42 as no less difficult. (I think AA50 is pretty easy since it tells you what you’re supposed to do with the NO’s)

Let opinions be heard. Jennifer does not even open her games… they are all sealed in the plastic wrap.

Plastic bits appeal to men anyway. WE like toys.

AA42 is a game for new people and not for the hard cores.

@Imperious:

yea i was just asking anyway. If he said it was in the game i would have immediately told you.

I was not “hoping” for it as the question was phrased, i was probing for answers in a casual way with a play on words from MLK ‘keep hope alive speech’

Thanks.  It was a great post.  Thanks for bringing the community the needed pick-me-up.  Very exciting.

My source also says that August 18 is the date. I was also told that review copies would not be available until next week but I already got scooped on the photos and details of the game.

That’s okay, I guess, my review won’t go on and on and on about how broken and unplayable the game is without money.

@squirecam:

News from Greg Smorey…

Guys,

I have some possibly good news for GEN CON on the heels of the Triple A shutdown…

I have just been informed that WotC will have a lot of 25 AA42 games at GEN CON
and I will be getting 6 copies myself. Now, I just talked to my
supporter and he seemed pretty confident in that it will officially hit
the shelves on August 18. So, he doesn’t see a reason why 42 shouldn’t
be out at GEN CON…

What ever it is worth…

@allboxcars:

Fact is AA42 isn’t the fruit of any previous version’s loins with the paternal contributions of the loyal fans, or even an attempt to upgrade the game: it’s a placeholder product for Revised. Cheap + Global. And now they can check it off the list.

I said this months ago.

Revised was no longer going to be supported. Revised was “dead” to WOTC, even to the point of not offering prize support for conventions.

Apparently, continuing to sell “revised” would not result in any profit for WOTC.

However, if you use the same map (but change the color/style to Anniversary) and use the Anniversary rules and units, you suddenly have a “new” game to make $$ off of.

There is NO actual reason to buy this junk, except to support Larry, if you have the revised map and anniversary pieces.

All you need is the setup (which except for swapping a few cruisers is also the same).

Rare is it that an A&A edition is a total rip-off just to make money.

This version comes close to, if not crosses, that line.

the guy who reviewed it has that in his report.

The Soviets move first in AA42, they control China. China is now 6 territories and they produce infantry at rate of one per two (rounded up).

They have the existing rules from AA50 as far as deployment and movement restrictions.

Soviet units cannot enter any part of greater china ( includes Manchuria) until either Berlin falls or Japan attacks Soviet territories.

Chinese can enter Manchuria and reclaim it as control for production purposes

Starting army is one infantry each on 6 territories and fighter in Yunnan. I would give them an artillery.  Fighter is replaceable if USA flys a new plane. ( use the rules under AAE for how exchange of pieces is made.)

forgot to add: Japan must garrison each Chinese territory with at least one land unit or China reclaims control.

4 weeks to go hiiihaa

@mwindianapolis:

@allboxcars:

personally I’m hoping the new game breathes some new life into these fora.

Yes I am an FNG but still - looking around and just reading some threads more or less at random - this place seems to be stagnant with something wavering between indifference and dogma.

COOL!!! My first Karma point! Negative naturally…

Well, it seems to me if you are going to kling to the same basic game (axis and allies) then not much can be done to send fresh air in. Just how much new stuff could be done…like start trek, they have been there and done that…many times over!

Actually it wasn’t the game I thought needed “fresh air” but this place.

@mojo:

is this a differnt game than the aa50 anniverisary edition.  the aa50 game i bought came with 41 & 42 versions.

It’s a revision to the revised or re-revised!  New sculpts, new units, new map!

These will be the same types of units, except a new master mold will be redesigned to include much more detail than before. So for example the Soviet tank will still be a t-34, but it will look MUCH better like a plastic version of GHQ. I don’t think any of the pieces will be a new type except perhaps the artillery for the allies and whatever piece is redundant.

Please don’t misunderstand me, I think the no promotion, no hype approach is at minimum myopic. I’m just speculating about why they might be taking the approach at all.

Somone mentioned to me why the big glut of game fairs quickly died back to just Origins and Gen Con was that the game companies were expending serious coin to reach very few new eye balls.

It just seems to me that would apply here to a degree. The return on investment of marketing A&A board games does not, in the company’s opinion, warrant the exercise. I see no other rationale for not marketing the games more strongly.

to judge the actual quality of the components in deciding which to play based on that, we have to wait for the release.

variety…perhaps, speed of play…maybe, can’t get AA50…sure

…one can drink too much so as to turn off one’s date as they get vomited upon…

I’m a little suprised that there are no pics of the gameboard released yet…
When is GENCON?
Thanks.

I think the essential arithmetic on this issue is how one wants to spend their money. For the defender, interceptors will certainly lessen the effects of SBR at the price of depriving these units from the front where they will be missed. This is also true for the escorts. Is it worth losing 1 or 2 fighters to prevent some  damage?  I guess it depends on ones point of view.

As for Craig’s view I’m not sure I buy that AAP/E are more complex than AAR/50 The mechanics of both are essentially the same.
For the same reason I think AAP/E are more in the lineage of AAR/50. When you learn Guadacanal or Bulge you throw the rules for the other games out the window.

@dondoolee:

No rough terrain should be more for tactical type games, A&A is a strategic game.  All you need to know is what terrain one can move through.

actually
never stood still by the difference between a strategic and a tactical game
you’re right :-D

There should be no difference in the cost or function of units in AA50 and AA42.  That way makes it easy for a player seasoned in one version to try out the other.  So far I think we’ve had five A&A theatre scale games, and five different rule sets for subs!  One can get confused sometimes.